red dragonet in a 10g nano

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Before we get all uppity let me say that this fish was sold to me as a scooter blenny at the time i had no idea what a dragonet even was all i know is that this poor fish was pretty much dying at my LFS he was completely emaciated and it made me sad so i bought him (not cheap either lol). After a bit of research it became brutally apparent that these fish need space to roam and plenty of live rock as their diet pretty much consists of only pods and mine wont eat from the tongs, no mysis no flakes straight pods. the fish had no gut when i got him and very little color. its been about 4 months now give or take and hes a huge fatty, he got all his color back including some new colors and hes the spunkiest fish i have i absolutely adore him/her my tank was overrun with pods when i put him in and hes been doing work ever since. Once i realized exactly what this fish was, as i am still new and this is my first reef, i realized that my tank is waaaay too small but i have one lfs in my area and i wont take him back there. i am working on a 75g upgrade but it will not be ready until February. so, to the point, i still have an abundance of pods amphipods small med and large and plenty of copepods especially in the fuge and he is still putting on weight so i am wondering if it would be horrible to keep him until the upgrade, basically another 4 months, he seems happy is extremely active and well fed and hes the only livestock i have eating pods the clowns wont touch them not sure why and my pep shrimp eats pellets and aptasia only. I just want to make sure i am not missing anything here he looks great acts great a model citizen really but looks can be deceiving and i don't want to miss anything here with my newb eyes so if anyone has any suggestions or ideas or if there are any members in az with a large enough tank that could take him off my hands ( as much as it kills me to do it) i would really appreciate it. i just want to do right by the fish and as happy and well fed as he seems everything i have read about dragonets says 50g or larger with lots of LR no exceptions. so really any input would be appreciated i would like to make this work until the upgrade but not at his expense. I've watched him very closely over the last 30 days to make sure he eats because i figured hes gotta be running low at the rate he eats and i would say he eats a pod every 3-4 secs from the time sunrises till about 2 hours before lights out then he dives in the sand and sleeps leaving only his eyes exposed. like i said before it was my little nano or death so in the spirit of keeping things alive lol do you think he can make it another 4 months? Tanks 10 gallons 9lbs Lr and a 4 gallon sump with a DSB caulerpa cheato and some LR, any input will be greatly appreciated =)
 
As you already know, this fish is never going to survive long-term in a 10gal without enough pods to feed on. However, you may be able to stretch it a few months if you can find a supplemental food it will eat and feed that 2-3x times daily. IME; most dragonets will eat Nutramar ova (if you can find it). Otherwise, you are looking at dosing copepods to keep this baby alive and that will get expensive.
 
DSB is like 4-5 inches. Yours looks like an inch from that one pic.

If he is doing well and your dosing pods frequently it could work, just keep dosing pods. I have one I rescued from a friend in my 16G that I havent fed once for the past 6 months and hes nice fat and happy. I did have a pod population that was years in the making. I also have 30lbs of LR in the 16g BB

My LFS said it was a blenny too :)
 
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with mandarins I start them on "bloodworms" then once they figure out thats food I get them eating small pellets... although some fish it will take a wile to figure out it is food
 
Your fish is already very thin. I can see that it's stomach is sunken in and I also see it's lateral lines. If you've done any research at all on the Dragonets, then you know these fish eat up to 16hrs a day and why they eat in this manner. You cannot feed this fish 2-3x a day any prepared foods and expect it to survive, let alone thrive. Those foods pass very very quickly through the fish, leaving behind very little nutrition. These foods are used for supplement feeding only! Their main source of foods are Cooepods!! They eat 100's a day!
I fear your Dragonet's life expectancy will be short lived in your 10 gallon tank :(
 
Ok first off those pics are 2 months old second the sand bed is 4 inchs deep In my sump third I hatch baby brine every other day, he wont eat them and finally the point of this is that I know hes about to starve and had you read my post you would know thats why I started it so unless anyone has any ideas as to how help this fish along For another 3 months or lives near by and take him off my hands than p!ss off hed be dead months ago had I not grabbed him rookie mistake or not. Ill get a more recent pic today so you can see his actual weight and not how he looked right after I got him. Thanks to those that actually read the post and gave suggestions
 
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Your fish is already very thin. I can see that it's stomach is sunken in and I also see it's lateral lines. If you've done any research at all on the Dragonets, then you know these fish eat up to 16hrs a day and why they eat in this manner. You cannot feed this fish 2-3x a day any prepared foods and expect it to survive, let alone thrive. Those foods pass very very quickly through the fish, leaving behind very little nutrition. These foods are used for supplement feeding only! Their main source of foods are Cooepods!! They eat 100's a day!
I fear your Dragonet's life expectancy will be short lived in your 10 gallon tank :(
Thank you for reiterating everything I already said above, any ideas or should I doom him back to the lfs that cant even properly identify their corals or fish. I know he was loving that 50 with no LR and 4 diamond gobies at the lfs......
 
Ok first off those pics are 2 months old second the sand bed is 4 inchs deep In my sump third I hatch baby brine every other day, he wont eat them and finally the point of this is that I know hes about to starve and had you read my post you would know thats why I started it so unless anyone has any ideas as to how help this fish along For another 3 months or lives near by and take him off my hands than p!ss off hed be dead months ago had I not grabbed him rookie mistake or not. Ill get a more recent pic today so you can see his actual weight and not how he looked right after I got him. Thanks to those that actually read the post and gave suggestions

Ok probably should have mentioned that they were 2 months old. Like I said, dose pods... If you really have had it for 4 months and it is still alive and fat as you say then either do nothing or dose pods... Kind of easy.

If you want to get rid of it take it back to the LFS, or a different LFS if you don't trust the one you bought it from.

If you want to give the fish away post it in the livestock forums
 
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Ok probably should have mentioned that they were 2 months old. Like I said, dose pods... If you really have had it for 4 months and it is still alive and fat as you say then either do nothing or dose pods... Kind of easy.

Oh and if you want to get rid of it take it back to the LFS, or a different LFS if you don't trust the one you bought it from.

If you want to give the fish away post it in the livestock forums
Livestock forums! Great idea ty hadnt thought about that
 
Got yer panties inna a bunch much. Maybe had I known the pics were 2 months old, I might have bitten my tongue a little..prob not!
Not the pics lol I said hes in too small a tank, only eats pods, and if anyone in my area could take him and then the fish police showed up, repeated everything I already said and offered no advice..I said repeatedly I want to do right by this fish thats all. Im not here to argue with you I just needed a little friendly advice and I threw myself under the bus to avoid the elitist's doing it instead. its the internet, if I got upset everytime some one was a jerk I wouldnt be on it very much :) so now that you made me out to be a fish killer I hope we can get along Im not here to fight just needed some help and im pretty sure you have been nice to me in the past I just think maybe you saw those pics and forgot to read the post. Heres some recent pics I just posted the others so you could see the little guy
 

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if the fish is fat and eating and you can keep supplying it pods and you can't find someone to take it, I'd say it probably could be ok in your tank for the time being until you upgrade.
 
100% agree!
Does he still look skinny to you in the new pics? I took those today cell phone pics but best I could do. Would be great if I could keep it until the upgrade and would be more than willing to dose pods if I have to. I do have someone in the livestock trade willing to take him but I would have to ship him :( .
As for you trolls lol its hard enough as it is to be honest with everyone and yourself about a mistake you have made let alone admitting it publicly for all to see. I admited to making a mistake and was still trolled for it so ya I got a bit sensitive about it and like a man and a decent human being I can admit that and I apologize to nana for my p!ss of comment as I mentioned before she has been nice to me. Troll me all you like I just want whats best for the fish. Thanks for any and all advice given
 
im sure we all have made mistakes. are you part of a local club? im sure you can find someone thinning out cheato and get some free pods
 
im sure we all have made mistakes. are you part of a local club? im sure you can find someone thinning out cheato and get some free pods
No clubs that I am aware of although I havent searched as hard as could I suppose. However im over run atm with macro, could I just cut some and put it in the dt?
 

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