Red Sea E 260 Initial set-up issues

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I just set up my new Red Sea E 260 and am currently in the process of cycling the tank. For the time being, I am only using the rear sump and do not yet have the in cabinet sump. The instructions on filling the tank state to fill the rear sump to just below the bend in the return line elbow. Having done that, the overflow is extremely loud as water is trickling through the overflow and falling to level below the return line elbow. If I add water so it’s not falling so far below the grate, it become silent but the skimmer creates a TON of micro-bubbles in the rear sump that get shot out into the main tank. What level do those of you who have this tank have you water at in the rear sump? Is it loud? How is your skimmer doing?
 
I just set up my new Red Sea E 260 and am currently in the process of cycling the tank. For the time being, I am only using the rear sump and do not yet have the in cabinet sump. The instructions on filling the tank state to fill the rear sump to just below the bend in the return line elbow. Having done that, the overflow is extremely loud as water is trickling through the overflow and falling to level below the return line elbow. If I add water so it’s not falling so far below the grate, it become silent but the skimmer creates a TON of micro-bubbles in the rear sump that get shot out into the main tank. What level do those of you who have this tank have you water at in the rear sump? Is it loud? How is your skimmer doing?
Hey There.

Just set this tank up in mid-September and here are my observations...curious as to how its going for you as well!

1. I'll probably switch to the in cabinet sump in not too distant future...more flexibility...quieter, better skimmer options

2. I currently run my rear sump level about 1/2"-3/4" below the red sea S/N sticker in the left corner of the sump. That is about 3/4" higher than the "recommended" level...

3. The falling water from the overflow definitely is a bit quieter at the level I run it at vs their recommended level...still more noisy than I would like but i'm content to live with it until I switch to the in-cabinet sump w/a silencer on the drain...

4. The skimmer was basically impossible to fine tune until the tank was cycled and i got some livestock in it. Still a pain in the butt with the smoked color of the plastic cup. Definitely looking forward to the having a sump with a real quality skimmer. The microbubbles did calm down for me after the skimmer was "broken in"

5. Running warmer than i thought (even in my house at 72-75 degrees) so ive added cooling fans and it solved the heating issue pretty much immediately.

Cheers
 
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Hey There.

Just set this tank up in mid-September and here are my observations...curious as to how its going for you as well!

1. I'll probably switch to the in cabinet sump in not too distant future...more flexibility...quieter, better skimmer options

2. I currently run my rear sump level about 1/2"-3/4" below the red sea S/N sticker in the left corner of the sump. That is about 3/4" higher than the "recommended" level...

3. The falling water from the overflow definitely is a bit quieter at the level I run it at vs their recommended level...still more noisy than I would like but i'm content to live with it until I switch to the in-cabinet sump w/a silencer on the drain...

4. The skimmer was basically impossible to fine tune until the tank was cycled and i got some livestock in it. Still a pain in the butt with the smoked color of the plastic cup. Definitely looking forward to the having a sump with a real quality skimmer. The microbubbles did calm down for me after the skimmer was "broken in"

5. Running warmer than i thought (even in my house at 72-75 degrees) so ive added cooling fans and it solved the heating issue pretty much immediately.

Cheers
Thanks for the reply. Since I made that post, I have done everything you just mentioned. I added an in-cabinet sump and protein skimmer. My micro bubbles with the Red Sea skimmer did stop after Red Sea sent me a replacement pump for the skimmer. I added a Trigger Systems sump bc I was cheaper and bigger than the Red Sea sump. However, I did need to buy 32mm to 1” adapters to go from the Red Sea bulkhead outlets to the standard (I live in the US). While I was at it, I also used a gate valve instead of the Red Sea diaphragm valve. It’s working well and is very quiet. Tuning the valve take a bit of time but now that I have it dialed in, I just make minor adjustments with my return pump to get my water levels where I want them. I have a EcoTech S2 return and can change the flow rate from 0-100%, which is much easier than messing with the gate valve as I can make 1% adjustments…and that happens to actually make significant changes. If your water level in the rear sump is not perfect, you’ll get a Venturi in the main overflow pipe (if it’s too low) which causes a lot of noise. If it’s too high, you’ll overflow into the emergency down pipe, which can also be noisy as it’s purging air through the pipe.

As I was ordering everything to make the switch, I did get the system in its AIO configuration dialed in, but it is much better now as I have more options available to me with the sump. A piece of advise would be not to get a skimmer that it too big. I may have done that. With the filter socks in place, my skimmer does not have much to pull out. So I just removed my filter socks and am going to see what just running the skimmer does. I’m only doing that bc it’s easier to empty a skimmer cup that clean a filter sock, but I don’t need both right now. I have a light bioload currently, only 4 small fish. That will likely change when I add more and bigger fish. Let me know if you have any questions.
 
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Thanks for the reply. Since I made that post, I have done everything you just mentioned. I added an in-cabinet sump and protein skimmer. My micro bubbles with the Red Sea skimmer did stop after Red Sea sent me a replacement pump for the skimmer. I added a Trigger Systems sump bc I was cheaper and bigger than the Red Sea sump. However, I did need to buy 32mm to 1” adapters to go from the Red Sea bulkhead outlets to the standard (I live in the US). While I was at it, I also used a gate valve instead of the Red Sea diaphragm valve. It’s working well and is very quiet. Tuning the valve take a bit of time but now that I have it dialed in, I just make minor adjustments with my return pump to get my water levels where I want them. I have a EcoTech S2 return and can change the flow rate from 0-100%, which is much easier than messing with the gate valve as I can make 1% adjustments…and that happens to actually make significant changes. If your water level in the rear sump is not perfect, you’ll get a Venturi in the main overflow pipe (if it’s too low) which causes a lot of noise. If it’s too high, you’ll overflow into the emergency down pipe, which can also be noisy as it’s purging air through the pipe.

As I was ordering everything to make the switch, I did get the system in its AIO configuration dialed in, but it is much better now as I have more options available to me with the sump. A piece of advise would be not to get a skimmer that it too big. I may have done that. With the filter socks in place, my skimmer does not have much to pull out. So I just removed my filter socks and am going to see what just running the skimmer does. I’m only doing that bc it’s easier to empty a skimmer cup that clean a filter sock, but I don’t need both right now. I have a light bioload currently, only 4 small fish. That will likely change when I add more and bigger fish. Let me know if you have any questions.
Do you still the 2 pumps in the rear compartment? I get too much flow with them running and my return pump COR 15
 
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Too much flow in the tank or too much water pushing through the weir? I didn’t want that water in the sump to stagnate and have the rear sump accumulate detritus, so I have them running and I turned my return pump down to 76%. I did have a bit too much water pushing into the tank, but I don’t have the open gates on my back wall, I only have the closed ones. If I had the open ones, I think that would solve the issue.
 
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