Red Sea Energy+ AB

[RaymondL]

This product from Red Sea says that Nitrates and Phosphates won't increase through the use of - I'm wondering if anyone here has used this product and can confirm this?

 

[Salty_Northerner]

I've been dosing Red Sea AB+ for about a week and I have noticed an increase in my nitrates and also my phosphorus level went from 20 ppb up to 51 today. I can't remember the conversion into phosphate as my wife tested it this afternoon and we have printed off the conversion chart from the Hanna website.

I'm also dosing ocean magic into the tank daily before using the Red Sea product, so one of the two is causing an increase for me and I won't know until this time next week which is the main culprit. Great stuff though! I spot feed my corals the other day and they went totally ballistic and loved the concoction.

I keep a journal and write everything down and before using the Red Sea product my phosphorus was at 20 ppb and the nitrates hang around 9-10 on my high range Hannah checker and today it was at 11.

It's kind of hard because I work on the road basically three or four days out of the week and I have my own feeding routine, and I'm not sure what my wife does for feeding, but hopefully she's following my guidelines which I believe she is... Anyways if I had to put money on it right now I would say it's the ab+ that's the culprit.

 

[RaymondL]

I've been dosing Red Sea AB+ for about a week and I have noticed an increase in my nitrates and also my phosphorus level went from 20 ppb up to 51 today. I can't remember the conversion into phosphate as my wife tested it this afternoon and we have printed off the conversion chart from the Hanna website.

I'm also dosing ocean magic into the tank daily before using the Red Sea product, so one of the two is causing an increase for me and I won't know until this time next week which is the main culprit. Great stuff though! I spot feed my corals the other day and they went totally ballistic and loved the concoction.

I keep a journal and write everything down and before using the Red Sea product my phosphorus was at 20 ppb and the nitrates hang around 9-10 on my high range Hannah checker and today it was at 11.

It's kind of hard because I work on the road basically three or four days out of the week and I have my own feeding routine, and I'm not sure what my wife does for feeding, but hopefully she's following my guidelines which I believe she is... Anyways if I had to put money on it right now I would say it's the ab+ that's the culprit.

20ppb is 0.061ppm, 51ppb is 0.156ppm, so a 0.095 increase, which isn't low. Anyhow, please keep me posted on what you find and as the culprit. I haven't started dosing yet, so I might do a before and after reading of PO4 and NO3 and report back.

 

[Spare time]

It can increase nitrate. It shouldn't increase phosphate or at least to any noticeable degree as neither aminos, nor fatty acids contain phosphates. If they have phosphate, it would be from some mysterious vitamin as they don't say which vitamins are in the product.

 

[Spare time]

I've been dosing Red Sea AB+ for about a week and I have noticed an increase in my nitrates and also my phosphorus level went from 20 ppb up to 51 today. I can't remember the conversion into phosphate as my wife tested it this afternoon and we have printed off the conversion chart from the Hanna website.

I'm also dosing ocean magic into the tank daily before using the Red Sea product, so one of the two is causing an increase for me and I won't know until this time next week which is the main culprit. Great stuff though! I spot feed my corals the other day and they went totally ballistic and loved the concoction.

I keep a journal and write everything down and before using the Red Sea product my phosphorus was at 20 ppb and the nitrates hang around 9-10 on my high range Hannah checker and today it was at 11.

It's kind of hard because I work on the road basically three or four days out of the week and I have my own feeding routine, and I'm not sure what my wife does for feeding, but hopefully she's following my guidelines which I believe she is... Anyways if I had to put money on it right now I would say it's the ab+ that's the culprit.

9, 10, and 11ppm are impossible to distinguish on the hanna hr nitrate. In reality, your nitrates are anywhere in between 7-13ppm.

 

[NoohpyT]

I will warn about over dosing this stuff, I was using this in my frag system and thought that since it was ULNS I could get away with it

a month later my frag system had a terrible cyano outbreak, so just dose a bit less than what the bottle says

 

[brandon429]

I find one or two drops per gallon is right a couple days before a water change

 

[Spare time]

I will warn about over dosing this stuff, I was using this in my frag system and thought that since it was ULNS I could get away with it

a month later my frag system had a terrible cyano outbreak, so just dose a bit less than what the bottle says

I think that is pretty much might be the same with all amino products. I am able to dose a lot though due to the density of corals in my tank but have also had cyano pop up nearly every time I dose way too much consistently.

 

[Spare time]

I find one or two drops per gallon is right a couple days before a water change

Do you use it in your pico tanks? I'd imagine it would last a while in those given the size of the bottles haha

 

[Salty_Northerner]

9, 10, and 11ppm are impossible to distinguish on the hanna hr nitrate. In reality, your nitrates are anywhere in between 7-13ppm.

Could you elaborate a little more on why the Hannah checker can't distinguish?

I'm learning myself after a 20-year hiatus. We didn't have fancy electronic Checkers back in the day. The guy that maintains all the parameters at the store I buy corals from suggested that I pick up the HR nitrate tester. He said grab the HR as the regular nitrate tester is a headache or something like that. So I took his advice and ordered HR.

I'm like a sponge and am absorbing all this information I can possibly get from R2R and I'm always open to any constructive criticism.

 

[Spare time]

Could you elaborate a little more on why the Hannah checker can't distinguish?

I'm learning myself after a 20-year hiatus. We didn't have fancy electronic Checkers back in the day. The guy that maintains all the parameters at the store I buy corals from suggested that I pick up the HR nitrate tester. He said grab the HR as the regular nitrate tester is a headache or something like that. So I took his advice and ordered HR.

I'm like a sponge and am absorbing all this information I can possibly get from R2R and I'm always open to any constructive criticism.

The hanna HR has a (assuming absolute perfection in testing methodology) +/-2ppm margin of error.

 

[moosevandyke]

I started using a combo of ab plus and Tommy’s phyto… my phosphates went up and I also had a cyno outbreak. Not sure i noticed any difference in my corals other some looked irritated (SPS) likely due to the rise in phosphates. I usually run around .10 .20 i did not see an increase in nitrate.

 

[vetteguy53081]

This product from Red Sea says that Nitrates and Phosphates won't increase through the use of - I'm wondering if anyone here has used this product and can confirm this?

I saw immediate nitrate imcrease and slight in po4

 

[Kmst80]

I saw immediate nitrate imcrease and slight in po4

Funny, my nitrates are steady or slightly less but my phosphates shooting up.

 

[drbark]

I'm not sure about Phosphates but my Nitrates went from 0 (Hanna) to 5-7 ppm. I am dosing for about 2 weeks now. Not a great sample size. I decided to start dosing of 75% of the recommended dosing. So at least in my short time of using it, it did increase my nitrates. I will increase my dosing to the full recommended level and see what happens in a week. If nitrates go up, then it will solve my low nitrate problem. My phosphates have gone up also but I started feeding Reef Roids at the same time so I don't know which is affecting more.

 

[merkmerk73]

I’m wary of this

I dosed it semi regularly and got some gnarly GHA outbreak

Could be unrelated but I try to be careful with it and not feed it like reef roids

 

[PGD123]

Dosing it/target feeding with oyster feast 3x/wk, no real changes on nitrate (10-15ppm), or phosphate (.07)... 24g AIO, inverts seems to love it... keep on keeping on...

 

[merkmerk73]

Dosing it/target feeding with oyster feast 3x/wk, no real changes on nitrate (10-15ppm), or phosphate (.07)... 24g AIO, inverts seems to love it... keep on keeping on...

Be careful with target feeding.

I did some target feeding with reef energy and ended up blasting a little blenny with it.

It spazzed out like it had fallen into a brine pool and died within 10 minutes or so.

Never seen anything like it. Maybe it was just a seizure or a heart attack.