Red Sea Max C-130 Beginner Setup

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I am a beginner and considering purchasing the Red Sea MAX C-130 Aquarium because it is literally an all-in-one system. I realize it is expensive but it appears that I wouldn't have to purchase very little equipment for a reef tank if I go with this one over some of the other cube systems. My question is, does anyone out there have one and are you happy with it. Also, what would the recommended distance from the wall be to ensure that I can do maintenance without struggling to reach the rear equipment. Thanks! Any advice you can give me is greatly appreciated!
 
Sorry, wrong button, wasnt done yet :) I have mine within a few inches of the wall , I stand on a stool to the side or reach over from the front for maintenance, so you can pretty much have it right against the back wall. Tank tends to run a little hot. Some run chillers. I just keep the fans running and my temp stays around 79. I've been very happy with mine.
 
Thank you for the info, that is exactly what I was hoping you would say. I'd LOVE to have the C-250 but talking my husband into the C-130 will be hard enough. :squigglemouth: Would love to see pictures of your tank!
 
Understandable [emoji6] I don't think you can go wrong with either one. I like the all in one concept. Keeps it simple, very clean looking. I run mine workout any modifications. Just a tunze nano auto top off and a jebao wp-25, and so far so good! Here's a pic
 
...or not. Trying again. ..
 

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I hope you don't mind me jumping in here. I also am looking at a 250. About every video or comment I have seen people have a hard time keeping them below 84 degrees. How do you keep tips at 79? One of the local fish stores told me they didn't think there was enough filtration but, recommended a emperor 400 to hang on a 75. I am very new and don't know much but, to me it looks like these would have more than the emperor. I am really torn on buying the used one I found or going new. I know there is work involved in this hobby I just don't want a bunch of trouble if I can avoid it.
 
Dangerbird123 your tank looks great, may I ask what made you decide to go without substrate? I am curious because I am on the fence myself. Thunderfan I also saw reviews regarding keeping them at the correct temp, which I'm sure is why they are already piped for a chiller. Every tank I consider seems to have a long list of pros and cons which is making this decision so difficult. I guess part of the fun will be the challenge to correct problems as they arise. Hope my husband understands that when I keep spending $$.
 
Thunderfan I know what you mean - a lot of people are running chillers to keep the temp down. A couple thoughts: RSM did add a water cooling fan that was not included with the 250-D series. I wonder if some of the people online are running the D series which did not have this fan. When I got my system I was hitting 83-84 and thought I would need a chiller for sure (which I was very unhappy about because I was totally unaware of this issue.) Before spending the crazy money on a chiller I tried just leaving the water cooling fan on all the time and the temp dropped right down to 80, and stayed there all summer. I keep my house thermostat set to 75 in the summer and 72 in the winter. During the winter my tank temp is 79. so if you keep your home warmer then your tank will be warmer too. Also, I replace almost a gallon of evaporation water per day through my ATO. The fan adds a little noise, but not too bad imo, and chillers make noise too when they turn on and off.
One other thing that I think may be a factor- I live in vegas so the air is very dry- maybe that increases the evaporation and makes the fan more effective. If you live in Florida or something, maybe the humidity limits the evaporation and the effectiveness of the fan. Just a guess.
 
Here is a pic with the hood up and you can see the fan I'm talking about (actually 2 small fans) to the right of the skimmer.
Oh and by the way- re: filtration, were they meaning mechanical filtration? Either way I've never heard that before. It has a ton of filtration. I only added the wp-25 2 weeks ago to increase turbulence. I had all the flow I could handle just from the return outlets, so don't let that turn you off.
 

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Thanks for the input. I have heard of others that lose about the same amount of water a day. We keep our house pretty cool year round. Winter time we are never over about 68. Summer we try to keep it about 72ish. I was really excited about the all on one thought but, I am leaning more towards a regular 75g with an emperor 400 filter. I like the clean looks but, being brand new I think I will have plenty to work on and learn without having to worry about upgrading original equipment. Plus, the unit I am looking at is used and I may be wrong but when you buy a used car you can expect to replace belts, brakes, and things like that. While it would give me a chance to upgrade parts I don't want to mess with that right away. I just want it to work and look awesome. I may look at the bigger version of these if/when the time comes I want to upgrade to a bigger tank. For now I think it is going to be better for me to kiss. By the way I love the scape on your tank dangerbird123. Looks great.
 
gotcha, thunderfan - and thanks for the compliment! - Used is always a gamble, and even buying new you have to weigh a lot of things. I'm sure yours will look great whatever you go with - look forward to seeing your build and progress!
 
Dangerbird123 your tank looks great, may I ask what made you decide to go without substrate? I am curious because I am on the fence myself. Thunderfan I also saw reviews regarding keeping them at the correct temp, which I'm sure is why they are already piped for a chiller. Every tank I consider seems to have a long list of pros and cons which is making this decision so difficult. I guess part of the fun will be the challenge to correct problems as they arise. Hope my husband understands that when I keep spending $$.

Thanks a lot! and sorry to go a little off topic above. I hear ya, lots to consider, and its hard to spend so much money, not knowing what unforeseen expenses will arise, especially when you have to sell your spouse on the whole thing too (i've been there, and when I was telling my wife how we might need a chiller and what it would cost her eyes popped out of her head).

Re: substrate - i can't imagine I would ever go back to sand - i ran a sand bed of about 2 inches for a couple years in my first tank (a 29gal) mostly because I liked the look of sand, but when i upgraded to the 250C i got rid of it. Lot of different opinions on this of course, but here is mine: first, I think a shallow sand bed is pointless other than for esthetics, and it just traps waste. Also, you can cause major problems unless you are careful not to stir the sand up too much and unless you somehow keep it incredibly clean which is pretty much impossible. I wiped out several fish and corals early on because I was messing with my rockscape for too long (yes it was my fault, but still, wouldn't have happened if not for the sand). As far as deep sand beds, I'm not drinking the Koolaid. Maybe they work, maybe they dont, I think they are even more of a ticking time bomb, and I don't really like the way they look. One of the DSB benefits is supposed to be the conversion of nitrate to nitrogen in the anaerobic zone. Even if that's true, I have read and believe that there are similar anaerobic zones deep within the structure of your live rock where this reaction is taking place. I'm all about keeping it simple and the bare bottom has worked well for me so far - In general I think the trend is moving away from DSB and more and more are going bare bottom, but obviously many successful tanks of both types out there.

Seems like there are successful reefers with every imaginable type of system, so there's definitely a lot of ways to make it work. Im sure whatever you choose will look great and work out well for you. I'm looking forward to seeing what type of setup you go with and what you choose for substrate!
 
I apologize for possibly repeating what others have said. I haven't read everyone's post.
I have 130d. I got it a year ago.
Here's where I placed it in the pic below.
I wish I had the $$$ for the 250 or bigger.
It leaves room to the left for containers and supplies. I keep water salt and RO in the compartment under the tank. I have a wall plug with a circuit breaker on the left. I also have a wall socket exactly behind the tank which is 4" away from the wall.
Keep in mind to have a big out door mat under your tank to catch any water that drips or you spill. Once you have your tank up and running it will be a pain to get that mat underneath.
 
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