Red Sea silicone improvements!!!

Phil D. · Mar 15, 2020

Hi All,
I was just at my LFS (Artistic Aquariums in Chandler, AZ) and they just got a shipment of new Red Sea tanks, (including the XXL900 which has been set up for a month now), and Red Sea has improved the silicone seals by adding a thick seal on the inside corners of all the panes of glass, (Corners, bottom, etc). So, this new sealing method plus the new bracing, alleviates any worries I would have about buying one of the new larger tanks.

GoVols · Mar 15, 2020

Phil D. said:
Hi All,
I was just at my LFS (Artistic Aquariums in Chandler, AZ) and they just got a shipment of new Red Sea tanks, (including the XXL900 which has been set up for a month now), and Red Sea has improved the silicone seals by adding a thick seal on the inside corners of all the panes of glass, (Corners, bottom, etc). So, this new sealing method plus the new bracing, alleviates any worries I would have about buying one of the new larger tanks.

If you don't mind, what's the smallest Reefer size that you saw that improvement done on?

SMSREEF · Mar 15, 2020

I’m not sold on anything Red Sea right now. When they sell light mounts and do not have replacement parts for the aluminum section at waterline that corrodes, expecting you to buy a whole new mount rather than but a 5$ part... not a company I will do business with in the future.

My light mounts did not corrode in 1 month. Nor did those tanks fail at 1 month.
It’s the 1.5 to 2.5 year mark I’m looking at.

AZMSGT · Mar 15, 2020

I’ve seen that tank too. It’s called gussets and I wouldn’t say it’s improved silicone. It’s the same gussets that are on other Red Sea tanks just thicker considering the size of that 900. Also that tank (the 900) has a much improved stand and metal reinforcements in the stand.

I still wouldn’t ever own another Red Sea. Their silly little games they played on customers during and around the entire 750 debacle has soured them for me. There is allot more improving that needs to be done outside of the tanks.

Phil D. · Mar 15, 2020

GoVols said:
If you don't mind, what's the smallest Reefer size that you saw that improvement done on?

the 250

Houstoner · Mar 15, 2020

Phil D. said:
the 250

Makes me wonder how long my current 250 will last.

GoVols · Mar 15, 2020

Houstoner said:
Makes me wonder how long my current 250 will last.

I think you good...

Phil D. · Mar 17, 2020

Issue with the bottom seals has been on the larger tanks, 750 and above.

SeaSickness · Mar 17, 2020

I had been seriously considering the 450XL, but I've heard and read so many horror stories about Red Sea's tank issues, and worse, their poor customer support. It's really too bad.

Phil D. · Mar 17, 2020

SeaSickness said:
I had been seriously considering the 450XL, but I've heard and read so many horror stories about Red Sea's tank issues, and worse, their poor customer support. It's really too bad.

Actually, with the improvements and if you ever had any issues, I would talk to Mr. Chien at the Texas office. He has been very responsive and helpful to me. We had some cabinet damage from shipping on the daughter's E-170 and he sent us new panels at no charge.

AZ_Reef · Apr 21, 2020

Water started getting into inside corner of my Red Sea reefer 350. The tank is only little over 2 years old. Filed a claim with Red Sea and hoping they do something about it.

Phil D. · Apr 22, 2020

They have the 3 year warranty for owners out there. You mean it's in the stand?

AZ_Reef · Apr 22, 2020

Phil D. said:
They have the 3 year warranty for owners out there. You mean it's in the stand?

No the tank.

AZMSGT · Apr 22, 2020

AndyZ89 said:
No the tank.

Hopfully they resolve your problem. While the picture is blurry, your edge seal looks to be failing. Good luck!

I personally don’t care if the tanks have a 1 year or 20 year warranty. I want a tank that I can trust for 15-20 years. Red Sea is not a tank builder I can trust. I have a 625 that is full and running now almost a year. I am only able to hope that it lasts for the ten years I plan to have it running.

MrStoffel · Sep 10, 2020

I've been considering a new tank, and really like the dimensions of the 300XL.
However, all the horror stories i've read in the past year have really scared me.
I've been keeping reef tanks for 20 years, and it would become a high end sps setup.
Considering a tank takes years to mature and grow in, by the time all your money and effort is in the tank, you're on your own.

Midrats · Sep 10, 2020

Have they improved the plumbing at all?

Tang22 · Oct 5, 2020

AZMSGT said:
I’ve seen that tank too. It’s called gussets and I wouldn’t say it’s improved silicone. It’s the same gussets that are on other Red Sea tanks just thicker considering the size of that 900. Also that tank (the 900) has a much improved stand and metal reinforcements in the stand.

I still wouldn’t ever own another Red Sea. Their silly little games they played on customers during and around the entire 750 debacle has soured them for me. There is allot more improving that needs to be done outside of the tanks.

Hi, does anyone know if these "improved seals" or "gussets" have been made to the Reefer 525 or 625 tanks as well?

thanks

RVA REEF · Oct 5, 2020

I dont think the seals/silicone were the problem, it is the stand materials and design. Customer service and deleting posts about failures are another problem.

Reefman71 · Oct 5, 2020

I’m sure that makes everybody that has purchased one in the past feel better. After seeing all the tank fails on their Facebook page and asking questions I was deleted from their page? I just wanted to know if it was safe to buy one or not. Commenting would be turned off on certain posts, certain posts about tank fails deleted? You couldn’t give me a red sea tank.

RVA REEF · Oct 5, 2020

I wouldnt buy another redsea new or used. There are quite a few options that look similar, don't catastrophically fail, and have better customer service (cade, innovative marine and waterbox).