Reef Bottom Anemones

myOmy · May 6, 2019

JQsreef said:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1596052113863713&id=354660201336250

Aci shows a video where the rainbow bottom is hosting a black storm clownfish

oh wow... that's interesting. i guess that might be another "how lucky you are" game in the playing.

JQsreef · May 6, 2019

myOmy said:
oh wow... that's interesting. i guess that might be another "how lucky you are" game in the playing.

Or clowns are immune to the sting and other fish probably are not. You can tell that they are not very fast at reacting. It would be hard for me to believe that it's a very good fish catcher unless it stings the hell out of normal fish. It's not like a tube anemone that can sting and grab and pull. It's something quite different almost lazy like

D-Nak · May 6, 2019

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, they are cold water nems that may be able to tolerate higher temps,and that it's a calculated risk to house them in typical reef tanks where the temps are 76-80 degrees. I wish the vendors were more transparent in terms of where they were collected, so that we can decide how to proceed.

For example, we now know that ventralis Anthias are a deep water species that like colder water and benefit from a continuous feeding system to thrive, so those who house them set up their tanks accordingly.

D-Nak · May 6, 2019

Clownfish can live with Caribbean nem species with mixed results -- some can be hosted by say a condy, but others report that their clowns were eaten. I'm guessing the same applies to these nems.

myOmy · May 6, 2019

D-Nak said:
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, they are cold water nems that may be able to tolerate higher temps,and that it's a calculated risk to house them in typical reef tanks where the temps are 76-80 degrees. I wish the vendors were more transparent in terms of where they were collected, so that we can decide how to proceed.

For example, we now know that ventralis Anthias are a deep water species that like colder water and benefit from a continuous feeding system to thrive, so those who house them set up their tanks accordingly.

i guess depends on where it was from, if those are from Fillipine then for sure the water won't be colder then 75, even those from Northern China or Japan, the water (half a year) would still be over 75

WMR · May 6, 2019

In the states, they’re new in the hobby, let’s see the long term stats on them before we make final decisions. If they’re coming out of China & Japan, probably cold water temperate specie, then we’re looking at short term survivability in our tanks. If you have a chiller, good to go

myOmy · May 7, 2019

WMR said:
In the states, they’re new in the hobby, let’s see the long term stats on them before we make final decisions. If they’re coming out of China & Japan, probably cold water temperate specie, then we’re looking at short term survivability in our tanks. If you have a chiller, good to go

In Asia, all those from Northern China and Japanese are doing well with steady 78*F tank, actually they would grow too fast with the warm temperture.

monkeyCmonkeyDo · May 7, 2019

yup, the coldwater guys know there stuff.
The "bumbs" on the sides of the anenoms foot in the second to last pic make me think its from temperate waters.
Looks like a colorful LTA to me. Nothing special imo.
-d

WMR · May 7, 2019

myOmy said:
In Asia, all those from Northern China and Japanese are doing well with steady 78*F tank, actually they would grow too fast with the warm temperture.

Nice, but has anybody kept them for any considerable length? Just trying to get some specifics on longevity in the aquarium since they’re relatively new in the hobby

Jon Fishman · May 7, 2019

No way I'd pay $500 for a reef bottom anemone..... rename it "Electro-khaleesi-dragon" or something..... and then we'll talk.

Baldguy · May 7, 2019

Jon Fishman said:
No way I'd pay $500 for a reef bottom anemone..... rename it "Electro-khaleesi-dragon" or something..... and then we'll talk.

Funny! The article says that the more accurate translation would be "end of rainbow". Much more glamorous than "rainbow bottom". Apparently very common in Japan. With the exception of the southern tip most Japanese waters are subtropical or temperate to cold. Few more pics here. https://www.takuyamorihisa.com/gall.../anthopleura/fuscoviridis/a_fuscoviridis.html

Phycodurus · May 8, 2019

LOL, the Japanese translates to simply "Green Sea Anemone" [ミドリイソギンチャク].

I'm too pragmatic ... I vote for calling them "anthopleura anemones," haha.

I googled this quickly off the net: The specific epithet fuscoviridis is from the Latin fusc, meaning "brown, dark, dusky" and viridis meaning "green or greenish."

myOmy · May 9, 2019

WMR said:
Nice, but has anybody kept them for any considerable length? Just trying to get some specifics on longevity in the aquarium since they’re relatively new in the hobby

Actually, it turns out it's quit common in Asia. i found a few people have them for years. it's new only to the States i guess...
but none of them host clowns. and i have been told those from the south behaves like sand anemone while the Northern ones behaves like a rock anemone.

JQsreef · May 9, 2019

myOmy said:
Actually, it turns out it's quit common in Asia. i found a few people have them for years. it's new only to the States i guess...
but none of them host clowns. and i have been told those from the south behaves like sand anemone while the Northern ones behaves like a rock anemone.

There's a video of one hosting a Black storm clownfish

myOmy · May 9, 2019

JQsreef said:
There's a video of one hosting a Black storm clownfish

yea i saw, but when i show it to the fish stores here, even they were surprised by it. so i won't try my luck, not those that are being sold in this side of the ocean.
maybe wait til one day i can affort a 300G tank, not my Nano nor my Pigo at the moment.... haha

JQsreef · May 9, 2019

myOmy said:
yea i saw, but when i show it to the fish stores here, even they were surprised by it. so i won't try my luck, not those that are being sold in this side of the ocean.
maybe wait til one day i can affort a 300G tank, not my Nano nor my Pigo at the moment.... haha

Yea I would have started with like a $10 clown first lol

oceaninabox12345 · May 9, 2019

Im getting some within the week. I figure ill try to make them more reasonable than other places and throw in shipping for free. But yes, they are truly the most stunning things I've seen. Super excited for them. Ill try putting them in varying temperatures and see how they do. As soon as they start to do bad, ill turn the temp down. Im thinking start at 75, 76, 77, and 78. I have a tank i can run at each of those temperatures easily. If anyone would like me to do a thread on how they do, let me know!

kchristensen8064 · May 9, 2019

oceaninabox12345 said:
Im getting some within the week. I figure ill try to make them more reasonable than other places and throw in shipping for free. But yes, they are truly the most stunning things I've seen. Super excited for them. Ill try putting them in varying temperatures and see how they do. As soon as they start to do bad, ill turn the temp down. Im thinking start at 75, 76, 77, and 78. I have a tank i can run at each of those temperatures easily. If anyone would like me to do a thread on how they do, let me know!

I would be interested in this thread.

Opus · Aug 15, 2019

Haven't heard anything else about these. Did they all die?

cromag27 · Feb 13, 2020

anthopleura fuscoviridis "antho fusco” aka covid nem

i'm very excited to have received these two specimens today. i'm not sure how many are still alive here in the u.s. and i was just told there may be no more coming in, as well. we'll see how they do. they are currently housed in a biocube 32g with two clownfish, one starry blenny, one cleaner...

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