Reefer XL 425 - 2 x Vortech MP40 - Placement?

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Hello!

I have a Red Sea Reefer XL 425 which is 47" x 22.6" x 22" and I have a pair of Vortech MP40 Pumps.

Right now I have them on the back wall on opposite sides of the tank as I'd really prefer to avoid having them sticking out on the ends/sides. I can do that if necessary - but would prefer not to.

Here is what their current placement looks like:
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It looks to me like I am getting pretty good flow over the sand on the ends and in the corners as well as about 1/3 up the front - but that flow in the middle itself may be suffering a bit. I am only running them at about ~40% to keep from blowing all of the sand out of the front corners and could certainly turn them up. The sand is Pink Fiji but I have some Special Grade I can replace the Fiji with - which is a little bigger and doesn't blow quite as bad.

I considered moving the pumps more towards the end of the tank to see if I could get more of the flow to meet in the middle.

That said I do have the return from the sump in the middle but it's flow isn't super impressive. It's a VarioS-4 [ https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/varios-4-controllable-dc-pump-1050-gph-reef-octopus.html ] and I have it set one level below 'max' as 1-4 are labeled 'normal' - it's on 4 - but I can turn it up to 5.

At any rate I want to try and make sure there's nowhere that anything can really 'settle' on the sand - I'm trying to avoid dead spots. From what looks like diatoms on the sand in the front center it looks like that's an area of low flow to me [but it could just be due to the amount of light overlap in the middle?

Here are shots of the ends:
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@TinyChocobo I Really love that Tank ;) I have the same one with a max gyre on one side but havent run into any dead spots yet but I did go with the Aragonite. I like the idea of mixing the sand up with a bigger grain but have you seen the splitter on Amazon for the return nozzle? you can crank up your return to 5 I bet!
 
I do have a LocLine adapter for the return and can split it in two and/or direct it better. I wasn't super keen on that though because any changes I made seemed to reduce the flow. As far as turning it up to 5 I just didn't want to wear the pump out early. If 5 is fine - I'll turn it up.
 
I think the mp40’s would be great towards both ends of the tank. I would put one on pulse mode and the other on Reef crest mode. It’ll get great flow all throughout the tank.

But in all honesty, there are a ton of ways that can work.

Good luck!!
 
I think the mp40’s would be great towards both ends of the tank. I would put one on pulse mode and the other on Reef crest mode. It’ll get great flow all throughout the tank.
So move them over within a few inches of the very ends and then un-sync them and set them differently?

Right now I have them synced up and on 'Lagoonal Reef Mode' just to keep things somewhat constant without huge fluctuations. It could be that I have them 'too constant' and that there's not enough change to really keep things moving everywhere?

My last tank was a 29G with 2 x MP10's on the very ends - so it wasn't hard to keep everything moving how I wanted [although I didn't mind the look at the time of the pumps on the ends... they were a pain to clean around though].
 
So move them over within a few inches of the very ends and then un-sync them and set them differently?

Right now I have them synced up and on 'Lagoonal Reef Mode' just to keep things somewhat constant without huge fluctuations. It could be that I have them 'too constant' and that there's not enough change to really keep things moving everywhere?

My last tank was a 29G with 2 x MP10's on the very ends - so it wasn't hard to keep everything moving how I wanted [although I didn't mind the look at the time of the pumps on the ends... they were a pain to clean around though].

Yeah you can do that. I have great flow in my tank. As much as I would love mp40’s I run some jebaos. But the concept is there. You can run them in sync if you play around with it but I just personally don’t run mine in sync. I get better flow without it.
 
I honestly dont have any experience with the varios pump but I do with the Ecotech Vectra. I run mine at about 80%... however I have heard of these breaking down. I am weary myself to put it at 100%... Maybe contact CoralVue and get their opinion?
 
Hopefully you can see where my pumps are at in the photo I posted of my tank. But when you look they don’t actually line up across from eachother. One is a little closer to the front the other one is closer to the back. I’d say a few inches. Hopefully that makes sense.

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Hopefully you can see where my pumps are at in the photo I posted of my tank. But when you look they don’t actually line up across from eachother. One is a little closer to the front the other one is closer to the back. I’d say a few inches. Hopefully that makes sense.
Yeah - I could put them on the ends of the tank was trying to avoid that. I can't put them too close to the surface or I end up with a vortex of air going down to them :P.

I will try moving them more towards the end and un-syncing them and see what happens. All I have in here right now is the rock and fish so there's not really any risk to experimenting with the flow. I did turn the pump up to max for the return.

Diatoms from my experience are fairly common / expected for a pretty new tank and will go away - but the amount of them in the front center just has me thinking that the flow is too low?
 
Got my Tunze ATO installed in the Trigger Crystal 10G ATO and installed an optical sensor in the ATO container to email me when I need to refill it as not to let it go dry. The time between refills should be long enough that I may forget to glance at it as it's 'hidden' under a table next to the stand. It's visible - but I may forget to look :).

Also installed an optical sensor in the sump to let me know if the sump becomes over-full just in case. I know the Osmolator is really reliable with it's own optical sensor and backup float - but this optical sensor will email me and fire the alarm if the water level gets too high.

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In hindsight I may have gone with a colored top-off or even solid black [as the optical sensor will let me know when to refill]... :).
 

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