Removing play’s with filter.

[olonmv]

What’s up guys!!

Real quick question, I plan on removing some play’s that have taken over some prime real estate in my tank.

I have an RODI canister that I repurposed with a 1 micron filter with an inline pump I made to use to gravel vac and return water back into tank with minimal water loss. It works really good at catching all the nastiness and keeping water loss way down for regular maintenance. I want to use the same process to suck out the paly’s with a ss straw like in a video I saw. I’m just concerned of the toxins released. Can I just load up the center of the filter with activated carbon and catch the toxins that way and how to I dispose of the palys safely once outta the tank?

I’m pretty sure they’re the toxic variety but could be wrong.

 

[N.Sreefer]

What’s up guys!!

Real quick question, I plan on removing some play’s that have taken over some prime real estate in my tank.

I have an RODI canister that I repurposed with a 1 micron filter with an inline pump I made to use to gravel vac and return water back into tank with minimal water loss. It works really good at catching all the nastiness and keeping water loss way down for regular maintenance. I want to use the same process to suck out the paly’s with a ss straw like in a video I saw. I’m just concerned of the toxins released. Can I just load up the center of the filter with activated carbon and catch the toxins that way and how to I dispose of the palys safely once outta the tank?

I’m pretty sure they’re the toxic variety but could be wrong.

Those look like they could be P. cf toxica if I were you I would suck them out like you said but while doing a water change and dispose of them with the water that way you don't risk the livestock in your tank if they slime up (which they will). Palytoxin is effectively removed by carbon but depending on how much is released and what other contaminates your water has in it the carbon may get saturated and stop absorbing quickly.

 

[olonmv]

Those look like they could be P. cf toxica if I were you I would suck them out like you said but while doing a water change and dispose of them with the water that way you don't risk the livestock in your tank if they slime up (which they will). Palytoxin is effectively removed by carbon but depending on how much is released and what other contaminates your water has in it the carbon may get saturated and stop absorbing quickly.

Thanks for the insight! In this case I may just mix up a half bucket of saltwater and bring that one rock into the bucket seeing that those paly’s are the only corals currently inhabiting that rock. The paly was cool when I first started the tank…..it started with just one polyp, a lil over a year later BOOM pest!

 

[N.Sreefer]

Thanks for the insight! In this case I may just mix up a half bucket of saltwater and bring that one rock into the bucket seeing that those paly’s are the only corals currently inhabiting that rock. The paly was cool when I first started the tank…..it started with just one polyp, a lil over a year later BOOM pest!

I have the same thing with captain jerk palys in my tank really cool as a first coral in the tank but really irritating later! That is a good idea but wear goggles and/or a faceshield and gloves when handling/transferring them to a bucket they can squirt water in your eye and cause damage to your cornea/temporary blindness. Never actually seen this happen but theres recorded medical cases of this happening so good to be on the safe side.

 

[olonmv]

I have the same thing with captain jerk palys in my tank really cool as a first coral in the tank but really irritating later! That is a good idea but wear goggles and/or a faceshield and gloves when handling/transferring them to a bucket they can squirt water in your eye and cause damage to your cornea/temporary blindness. Never actually seen this happen but theres recorded medical cases of this happening so good to be on the safe side.

I’ve handled the rock before without gloves. I’m not a person who’s known to get allergic reactions and maybe ive been lucky that nothings happened. I did however proceed with caution knowing that toxicity of the animal and always kept them at arms length and always keep my mouth closed. I wear glasses to see so that kinda serves as my PPE too lol.

Got this coral on a frag as a hitchhiker and kept it against the advise from my LFS. They told me it was invasive and grew fast…..they were right lol. It was fine at first but that spot would be a great spot to mount my future sps wants.

Flushing removed paly’s down toilet ok? I’d hate to introduce something into the sewer system that could adversely affect someone and I got young boys and Id hate to dump the water and paly’s where they could come in contact with it. What neutralizes the toxin?

 

[N.Sreefer]

I’ve handled the rock before without gloves. I’m not a person who’s known to get allergic reactions and maybe ive been lucky that nothings happened. I did however proceed with caution knowing that toxicity of the animal and always kept them at arms length and always keep my mouth closed. I wear glasses to see so that kinda serves as my PPE too lol.

Got this coral on a frag as a hitchhiker and kept it against the advise from my LFS. They told me it was invasive and grew fast…..they were right lol. It was fine at first but that spot would be a great spot to mount my future sps wants.

Flushing removed paly’s down toilet ok? I’d hate to introduce something into the sewer system that could adversely affect someone and I got young boys and Id hate to dump the water and paly’s where they could come in contact with it. What neutralizes the toxin?

The sewer system is well equipped to deal with hazardous chemicals and bacteria anyone working with the raw sewage is wearing full ppe so imo the best place for them is the sewage system. Unless you have a septic system and well in that case I would advise against flushing them.

Imo the worst thing the biggest risk for others is dumping outside where it can contaminate groundwater in that case it would be quickly diluted and eventually rendered non hazardous but would be a hazard for a time. I also don't wear ppe when handling rock (which in hindsight isn't the smartest) but if theres a species of paly on the rock you really should a tiny little scratch is all it takes to give the toxin a route to reach your bloodstream and poison you. The toxin is removed by carbon it just takes alot of high quality carbon if alot of toxin is released.

I was wearing safety glasses when mixing a disinfectant at work that undiluted has a ph of 11 I don't mean to sound preachy here but it went right around the glasses and splashed into my eye. It burned my cornea and I needed a morgan lense running saline all night for 8 or more hours. Not worth it a faceshield/splash goggles are cheap as dirt.

That does look like a wicked spot for some sps if ya start a build thread I'll definitely follow it looks like your set up to succeed. I'm a fan of the gsp covering the aio filtration it looks alot better than the plain black plastic

 

[workhz]

Ask lfs if they want a rock or garbage. Get new rock.

 

[olonmv]

The sewer system is well equipped to deal with hazardous chemicals and bacteria anyone working with the raw sewage is wearing full ppe so imo the best place for them is the sewage system. Unless you have a septic system and well in that case I would advise against flushing them.

Imo the worst thing the biggest risk for others is dumping outside where it can contaminate groundwater in that case it would be quickly diluted and eventually rendered non hazardous but would be a hazard for a time. I also don't wear ppe when handling rock (which in hindsight isn't the smartest) but if theres a species of paly on the rock you really should a tiny little scratch is all it takes to give the toxin a route to reach your bloodstream and poison you. The toxin is removed by carbon it just takes alot of high quality carbon if alot of toxin is released.

I was wearing safety glasses when mixing a disinfectant at work that undiluted has a ph of 11 I don't mean to sound preachy here but it went right around the glasses and splashed into my eye. It burned my cornea and I needed a morgan lense running saline all night for 8 or more hours. Not worth it a faceshield/splash goggles are cheap as dirt.

That does look like a wicked spot for some sps if ya start a build thread I'll definitely follow it looks like your set up to succeed. I'm a fan of the gsp covering the aio filtration it looks alot better than the plain black plastic

I definitely don’t consider advise, preachy .

As for what you’ve mentioned as far as the sewer system goes. You’re absolutely correct. They do treat with a bunch of chemicals. Chlorine neutralizes the toxins and water treatment plants use a ton of that stuff!

Luckily for me, that particular rock can be picked up without disturbing the paly’s. I’m gonna suck em out in a bucket with my canister minus the filter. Once they’re off I’ll place that same rock in another bucket of fresh saltwater and run that water through the canister with activated carbon in it like a reactor for a few hours then return the rock to the main display. I really appreciate the advise and helping me get direction on this!!!

I’ve never done a build thread but it’s never too late to start lol. I’ve had the tank goin for about 18 months and have learned a great deal. I think I’m ready for sps and those paly’s are exactly where I’d like to place them.

 

[olonmv]

Ask lfs if they want a rock or garbage. Get new rock.

That rock started as dry rock. I’ve gone through to many ups and downs with my setup and feel like throwing away good rock is counter-productive, especially when I have the means to just get rid of the unwanted coral and keep a perfectly good piece of rock.

 

[workhz]

Maybe trade at lfs for a fresh live rock. Seems like a lot of work for a easily removable rock and no guarantee they don’t come back.

 

[olonmv]

Maybe trade at lfs for a fresh live rock. Seems like a lot of work for a easily removable rock and no guarantee they don’t come back.

This sounds like a great option also. I just don’t mind putting in the work and I’d hate to do a swap just to get some kind of evil hitchhiker in return which would be my luck lol.

 

[workhz]

The devil you know ....

 

[olonmv]

The devil you know ....

Most definitely!