Rev's 400+ Gallon Basement Inwall

[httorihanzo]

63 pages and its not wet yet?!?!! What page are the tank dimensions on? lol. Following. Looks truely epic.

 

[httorihanzo]

Would also like to know approx how much rock was used.

 

[Turbo's Aquatics Verified Sponsor]

Just curious, why is that? I will be doing the same soon

A bean animal works by creating a full siphon on the primary drain. You want the entire pipe to be filled with water, if possible. If you throttle it at the top the bottom section of the pipe below the valve won't remain full.

^this, the siphon line needs to purge out the air in order to work right, so putting the valve high lets the water fall out the full height. Putting it low means the air in the line gets pushed out as the water piles up on the valve (air gets mixed in and "blows out" of the drain, essentially). You can't get this with the valve up high (or at least, not easily and reliably)

 

[revhtree Verified Admin]

It that a BeanAnimal drain on 2 overflow boxes? If so the control valve on the siphon line needs to be at the bottom end of the run.

These are not glued! I haven't figured out how I am going to plumb it. I was just test fitting the small cuts. That being said how do you suggest I plumb the overflows?

 

[Turbo's Aquatics Verified Sponsor]

With pipe and PVC cement

 

[revhtree Verified Admin]

With pipe and PVC cement

Jerk!!

 

[Terry4505]

You want the ball valves as close to the sump as possible so they can purge air more easily. I made the same mistake and had to cut and move my gate valve.

 

[revhtree Verified Admin]

You want the ball valves as close to the sump as possible so they can purge air more easily. I made the same mistake and had to cut and move my gate valve.

But it looks so sweet there...LOL!

 

[revhtree Verified Admin]

My dear friend @143MPCo and I were talking and he brought up this idea for my plumbing. This would make things a little easier for me because of several issues but I don't want to get into that. The main question is how do you like this idea?

This is a 3" pipe that would take all the water to the sump.

 

[Brew12]

My dear friend @143MPCo and I were talking and he brought up this idea for my plumbing. This would make things a little easier for me because of several issues but I don't want to get into that. The main question is how do you like this idea?

This is a 3" pipe that would take all the water to the sump.

I actually really like the idea. It won't be as quiet as a true bean animal but since it is in a fish room I think it makes sense. Much less plumbing, fewer connections, and follows the KISS principle. The vents are a very smart addition!

Edit: Actually, if you keep the top of the 3" pipe below the top of the water level in sump it could end up being very quiet....

 

[Turbo's Aquatics Verified Sponsor]

I'm a purist...the BA system is by far the best thing I ever did and I would follow the principle behind it to a tee.

The issue I see with 2 BA boxes on the same tank is balancing them. Doable but it makes it a bit of a special case, not sure how the dynamics of that would work

How much flow are you planning to push through the system? Actual return flow of the return pump, after head loss?

 

[tripdad]

My last tank was a bean animal drain and I had the valve located even with the bottom of the tank and had very quiet operation. I think what's important is to keep the first straight section full of water at all times so no air can gurgle back up through it and break the siphon. I also ended up drilling a 3/16" hole in the siphon pipe 1/2" above the sump water level to allow air to escape, made all the difference. Not my idea, got it from the original thread.

 

[Brew12]

I'm a purist...the BA system is by far the best thing I ever did and I would follow the principle behind it to a tee.

The issue I see with 2 BA boxes on the same tank is balancing them. Doable but it makes it a bit of a special case, not sure how the dynamics of that would work

How much flow are you planning to push through the system? Actual return flow of the return pump, after head loss?

I don't think this will end up operating anything like a BA. But the short run of piping should help keep it fairly quiet.

 

[revhtree Verified Admin]

I am not concerned with noise.

 

[tripdad]

I'm a purist...the BA system is by far the best thing I ever did and I would follow the principle behind it to a tee.?

Sorry, caught me mid post as I type slow. I agree with this and pay particular attention to the fittings and vent on the top of the elbows in the overflow boxes. A lot of people screw this area up. Especially the siphon break tube for safety.

 

[stylaster]

Depending on your return pump you might want to look into a coast to coast overflow. Just to be able to handle the amount of flow.

 

[DustyXB9Reefer]

Well I finally found some time to install the most awesome controller board in the history of all man kind! @Elder1945 created this amazing gift for me and I am extremely thankful and awed by the craftsmanship!

Excuse the dirty tank room!

Nevermind the tank.. did you guys see this?!

 

[143MPCo]

The issue I see with 2 BA boxes on the same tank is balancing them. Doable but it makes it a bit of a special case, not sure how the dynamics of that would work

Great point!

I do have this setup on a 3-tank system, it took a little tuning but I was able to match all three and they dead quite.

 

[themcnertney]

Help me understand something as I too am doing some recent plumbing. I didn't think drains needed any valves to control the flow? I just thought the return used one?

 

[stylaster]

its always best to run your return pump at full output and then you adjust your drains so you dont get a waterfall effect happening in your overflow box. This way you can increase or decrease the amount of water in the overflow box