RIP Leopard Wrasse

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So here the story goes....


I bought a new black ocellaris clown about .5 inches, very small, two weeks ago. I thought that the white spot on his back fin was part of his coloring, it sincerely looked natural and the little guy didn't stop swimming fast enough for me to really get a good look! I didn't have a quarantine tank that was cycled completely at the time so I hoped for the best and put him in my 55 display. Well my clown seemed fine, everyone seemed fine......until I started seeing my leopard wrasse scratching against the rocks a little bit (not knowing AT ALL this was a big sign of Ich). That was two days ago. I came home last night after a family dinner to find the little black clown swimming upside down and doing all sorts of what looked like drunken acrobatics and I assumed he was a goner. I then found the wrasse laying on the sand (on top of it!) and I also assumed the worst. I stuck my hand in there to pick out the leopard which I assumed was dead, boy was I wrong. She shot around the tank and looked awful. I couldn't see any spots on her, anywhere.....her color continued to fade right before my eyes...she was dying it seemed.

I fed the tank with mysis with a little garlic solution. Her color returned, and got better as the night went on, I watched that tank like a hawk lol. I went to bed to find her dead as a doornail this morning half buried half unburied on top of the sand. The small clown is also dead.

I guess this post is just me venting, I loved that leopard, the clown was new so I was not so attached. But a loss stinks either way. I still have 2 small Gobies and a larger black clown that seem fine, who knows. I thought Ich worked slower than this, I did not see any small visible signs, no real obvious white dots on either fish, other than the small black clowns fin. Anyone think maybe I'm wrong in my diagnosis?

I'm pretty discouraged and I guess being new at this hobby this is part of the adventure. My corals are fine, my parameters are perfect, I have good lighting and I don't over feed. I guess I just didn't realize he had Ich....or is it something else. Idk..what do you all think?

55 gallon bowfront
12 gallon sump
24 bulb Cree LED DIY fixture
ASM mini-G in sump skimmer
Running Carbon and small amount of Rowa Phos in my sump bag
Do not dose anything and according to all test my parameters are perfectly in range


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:( Sorry to hear. Maybe someone around here can help shed some light.
 
I'd remove the remaining fish to a QT and allow the DT to remain fallow for up to 11 weeks. Take a look at the attached article and see if you can tell what the symptoms might reveal, and treat accordingly.

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Talking with my LFS guy it turns out I might not have had a ich problem at all. My fish displayed sympotms overnight which he says is definatley not ich. They would have had symptoms for a couple of days to weeks and been covered with spots by the time they died.

What i did fail to mention is that I made the horrible and stupid mistake of feeding my fish thawed then refrozen shrimp and clams from the store. Not the LFS, the freaking grocery store. I made a little mash to try and spice up the variety. I have been feeding LFS mysis frozen since day 1. The food I prepared I fed twice thus far, once on Friday and once last night.......If the bacterial infection set in Friday, the smaller fish taking a dive last night and the delicate fish (leopard wrasse) taking one the next morning makes sense. Let me know what you guys think, PLEASE.

From all the research I have done I do NOT have ich. I saw no large or even small white spots and the clowns that I got the suspect clown from exhibit no ich symptoms what so ever. The only thing that made me really suspect Ich was the leopard wrasse scratching against the rocks some. IDK what that was about or if it makes this whole bacterial infection thing bunk.

My hearty fish (except the small, i consider baby clown) are okay, hopefully they will stay that way and the more delicate fish died. Im going to watch my DT and see how it progresses before I take any action. Please let me know if you guys have any input on this, again im pretty new to any type of fish disease or ailments. The more I read the more I realize this.
 
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The scratching would indicate a parasite in all likelyhood regardless of if you ever saw spots or not. There are diseases that cab porogress quicly, amyloodinum and brooklynella being a couple of them, that can take down weaker fish rather quickly. Those are just a couple possibilities of sveral. The random bacterial infection or tainted food thing just doesn't make a whole lot of sense and is fairly unlikely. Sadly there's a good chance any new fish you add will get infected with whatever parasite you have. It's a tough call on whether you should remove and treat your current fish and leave your display fishless for a few months. Let this be a lesson on how important patience and quarantining fish is in this hobby. Good luck!
 
Sorry to hear.

I just purchased a leopard wrasse today, so I'll keepma close eye on him.
 
It's very important that you QT these fish, not only to prevent them from introducing parasites and/or other diseases to the other fish in your QT, but also to give them a chance to start eating without any competition/stress, and allow them to get healthy and strengthen up.
 

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