Rock flower anemones DYING
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You shouldn't be feeding them every day. Mix up new salt water and put it in a bowl and float it in the tank. Put him in the bowl after it warms up to tank temps, lower your lights a little and see if he recovers or perks up within an hour or 2. Make sure to use distilled or rodi water. If he appears a little better it is some parameter.
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I dont have any crabs other than a hermit that I added way after the issue started, and he's just chilling in the rockwork all day.
Inhabitants in this tank are the RFAs, a couple of bubble tips, some zoas Anton bruuni shrimp, some small snails/limpets and an urchin which is feeding on coralline from the 2 yr old live rock as well as Nori.
I don't bother checking params as there's lots of live rock and there are no hard corals to eat up alk
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You are spot feeding daily in a small tank. Your parameters are going to be all over the place. Nori breaks down so does everything your adding. You need to check your parameters.
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I know the story makes it sound like it's targetting nems in series, but I was very infatuated with the highlighter yellow nem, so there's a good chance it was happening to the other nems and I just didn't notice.
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A 12g tank will have Salinity all over the place from evaporation, nutrients coming in and none going out. You said it was an issue with a prior tank you pulled rocks from. Clearly upon setting up such a small tank you need to check your parameters as they can swing in a day. There is no guarantee the rock you pulled has enough active bacteria to filter ammonia out especially if it's covered in corraline. You need to tell us how you produce your water and your parameters. These are the things we can see and use to diagnose potential issues. Bacteria we can not see or test for outside of basic parameter testing. Either way we need to know what your parameters are.
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0 ammonia, both PO4 and NO3 too low to detect.
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Why would a water quality issue affect the nems in series versus in parallel? Bacterial infection spreads from one to the next. Only thing in the tank besides the nems is a shrimp I’m unfamiliar with. So it could be the shrimp….but water quality seems less likely imo.
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You seem very adamant about this being parameters so I checked them all.
Salinity - 1.025, Hanna checker
Alk - 7.5 - Hanna
Cal - 340 - Hanna
Ammonia - 0, salifert
NO3 - too low to detect, salifert
PO4 - too low to detect, salifert
The issue did NOT start with a prior tank, I only said I used rock from it.
We don't know of any specific bacteria that only attacks rock flowers, but there could very well be, it's not as if we've identified every single strain of bacteria in the ocean, right?
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eggplantparrot
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Just tested, plz let me know if it's the params
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The shrimp is a cleaner variety, it is small and not aggressive at all even with food. It's well fed and hangs out under rocks most of the time
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Need to know mg as well as the cal is a little low , would also like to know ph but I’m still thinking something bacterial maybe some heavy metals ect… can add cuprisorb wouldn’t hurt
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Lol I knew that would be a problem in a new tank hence me feeding nearly every day.
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eggplantparrot
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I can test mg but I can guarantee its going to be within range, if not just a little low.
I really do appreciate the help but I've done this long enough to be able to tell this wouldn't be caused by off params.
The symptoms really do indicate an infection of some sort spreading over the nem until it succumbs
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We are heading over to the vet for our dog tomorrow and I will try to ask for some Cipro, but I'm not hopeful.
I tried something with the Furan as it's also bacterial, maybe it will help or at least hold it over until a better solution.
I stopped all flow and slowly squirted some Furan dissolved tank water over the nem in question. Hopefully soaking the nem in it.
I can't realistically remove this nem as it's tucked under the the edge of the rock structure and it will be even more stressful to do so
I tried something with the Furan as it's also bacterial, maybe it will help or at least hold it over until a better solution.
I stopped all flow and slowly squirted some Furan dissolved tank water over the nem in question. Hopefully soaking the nem in it.
I can't realistically remove this nem as it's tucked under the the edge of the rock structure and it will be even more stressful to do so
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I will drop in the cuprisorb and carbon as well just in case, but I'm having a hard time coming up with a source of metal contamination.
