RODI for reef and household. HELP

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I have been thinking of getting an RODI unit. It would have to make drinking water for the household also. what is the requirement to make that happen? Is a pressure boost required? pre filter? (I'm on a well) Auto flush? The whirlpool ro unit I have under the sink is costing me about $90 a year in filters and I'm buying 60- 80 gal a month at the lfs. How can a rodi unit make 90 gal a day when this whirlpool unit only makes 5 and that's when the filters are new? this kitchen unit flushes 24 /7. Will a unit making 90 gal a day flush that much more? I know the answers are out there. Please help so I can do this right the first time. (for a change)
 
You can T the output after the RO to get RO water for drinking, in this case you'll need a Bypass valve to open a bit and raise the TDS of drinking water to around a 100 as it tastes better, close the bypass valve and the valve to the DI so you get tank water.
In my case I run 2 RO unites connected to the same prefilters and one is set to give me water at 100 TDS for drinking and the other bypass is completely closed and outputs in the DI. each have they're own pressure pump. What I normally do is that when an RO membrane gets a bit older (RO rising above 30) i move it to the drinking water RO and add a new one to the tanks RO unit.
 
I use a 100gal per day barracuda RODI by Aqua fx. Paid 180 for it. When I want drinking water I remove the DI And in 15 seconds Im making drinking water.

I fill up a few 5 gal jugs n I got drinking water for a week

It's recommend you have soft water going into the RODI for longer life of the RO membrane

If your water pressure is to low (the barracuda works best at 80 psi) you will need a pump around 60 bucks more or less.
 
We have a T right after the DI, chamber g
with water going to the house and the Rodi barrel.
 
If you're at 40 psi or so, you shouldn't need a booster. They do improve efficiency, but not necessary unless you're looking for a ratio around 2:1. You'll want a small tank for drinking water - the standard size is 3.2g. If your well water has high tds, then you'll likely want to go for a dual DI stage. AZdesertrat (I believe that's his sn) seems to be the professional around here for water systems. He can give you all the details you're looking for if you want specifics.
 
Let's back up some guys.

There are RODI units pre-plumbed to send RO water to two locations:
1. A pressurized storage tank that supplies a drinking water faucet, and
2. Also on to a DI stage.

It's not quite as easy as plumbing in a tee, a well configured system like this assures that RO water from the pressure tank never makes its way to the DI stage. The water from the tank also has to pass through a taste and odor filter.

Beware - there are a LOT of mis-configured systems on ebay that claim to provide drinking water and RODI water.

If a drinking water system requires proprietary filters, yes - you'll pay through the nose for those, and chances are they are not of equal quality to the filters in a well-made reef system.

How can a rodi unit make 90 gal a day when this whirlpool unit only makes 5 and that's when the filters are new?
The gallons per day produced by an RO system is determined by the RO membrane and the flow restrictor. Drinking water systems are often built with very slow membranes because the demand for water from these systems is minimal. That said, 5 GPD is VERY slow, even for a drinking water system. I wonder if the membrane in that system is scaled or fouled?

this kitchen unit flushes 24 /7
The system is malfunctioning and is costing you a lot of water. It's essentially like leaving a faucet on 24/7. I'd fix this pronto. It is also prematurely using up the limited capacity of your prefilters. Remember - all that water going down the drain is going through your sediment filter and carbon filter(s).

Will a unit making 90 gal a day flush that much more?
Any system that is configured correctly and working properly will make about 4 times as much waste water than purified water. That ratio goes us some if you are sending the purified water into a pressurized tank. A higher capacity system will make the pure water faster.

you'll need a Bypass valve to open a bit and raise the TDS of drinking water to around a 100 as it tastes better
This is probably not necessary. Drinking water RO systems using a pressurized tank have been making drinking water in thousands of homes for decades w/o blending the water.

We have a T right after the DI chamber with water going to the house and the Rodi barrel.
There is a much better way to plumb this system - you want RO water for drinking, rather than RODI water.

If you're at 40 psi or so, you shouldn't need a booster. They do improve efficiency, but not necessary unless you're looking for a ratio around 2:1.
RO systems (really, RO membranes) are significantly affected by water pressure, and water temperature. At lower pressures, water production slows, and the purity of the RO water is affected too. It's not as if a RO system "won't work" at lower pressure - the performance is just not as good. We find that customers are typically willing to put up with the reduced performance down to around 40 psi. Most people have more than 40 psi in their homes, and don't need a booster pump. We don't recommend customer get a pump specifically to control the ratio of waste water to purified water - that is better accomplished by a $4 part called a flow restrictor.

Russ
 
^ +1

I had a system that stored RO water in the pressurized tank from there it teed off. One side to the Ro tap at the sink and the other side went to the DI which was turned on by a coiled up RO line with a valve. When I wanted RODI i just filled up my 5 Gal bucket and stored it.
 
I have been using a dual home reef system for years; that I bought from one of my local club sponsors .It's about 8 years old ;and I'm very happy with it. My RO water comes out cleaner than most bottle water than you'll find in stores. Home page

How many tanks are you running,that you go threw 60 to 80 gallons a month ?
 
There are RODI units pre-plumbed to send RO water to two locations:
1. A pressurized storage tank that supplies a drinking water faucet, and
2. Also on to a DI stage.

It's not quite as easy as plumbing in a tee, a well configured system like this assures that RO water from the pressure tank never makes its way to the DI stage. The water from the tank also has to pass through a taste and odor filter.

Beware - there are a LOT of mis-configured systems on ebay that claim to provide drinking water and RODI water.

Should have better decribed,
My setup has solenoids after the T, so when the RODI storage is full it will shut the solenoid to avoid the mentioned return.

you'll need a Bypass valve to open a bit and raise the TDS of drinking water to around a 100 as it tastes better
This is probably not necessary. Drinking water RO systems using a pressurized tank have been making drinking water in thousands of homes for decades w/o blending the water.

Can you explain how they raise the RO water TDS to get rid of the bitter taste without blending the water?
 
I've never heard anyone describe RO water as bitter. It tastes great.

Are you saying YOUR ro water tastes bitter? Or is this just something you've heard?

Russ
 
RO systems (really, RO membranes) are significantly affected by water pressure, and water temperature. At lower pressures, water production slows, and the purity of the RO water is affected too. It's not as if a RO system "won't work" at lower pressure - the performance is just not as good. We find that customers are typically willing to put up with the reduced performance down to around 40 psi. Most people have more than 40 psi in their homes, and don't need a booster pump. We don't recommend customer get a pump specifically to control the ratio of waste water to purified water - that is better accomplished by a $4 part called a flow restrictor.

Russ

Good to know. I was under the impression a booster pump was the way to do this.
Not to hijack, but do you mind elaborating? My line is around 60 psi and I think I'm around 6:1. I'd love to be more efficient if it's as easy as a $4 part. I have a 75gpd RD membrane and a dual di cannister. Can't remember the brand of the membrane, but the DI is aquatic life if that makes any difference.
 
You can just change your flow restrictor to a tighter restrictor (lower gpd rating) - it will restrict the waste more, and that ratio will some down. To start with, you have to identify your current flow restrictor. Feel free to give us a call when you are in front of the system if you need help finding it.

Russ
 
I've always been scared to drink ro water. Just seems too clean. I like a little chlorine
 
I used to drink RODI water lol. When I would drink bottled water it was taste like lake water. Now I jus drink ro
 
Any system that is configured correctly and working properly will make about 4 times as much waste water than purified water. That ratio goes us some if you are sending the purified water into a pressurized tank. A higher capacity system will make the pure water faster.
So, is the system making waste water only at the time it is working? ( if I use 30 gal in a day I make 120 gal of waste water) and if no rodi water is used no waste? As far as this whirlpool unit I have malfunctioning, it has done this since I installed it 5 years ago it does it the same the day after I install all new filters as it does when the filters are at lifes end (6-7 months) This has been the hated fact of ro water since I got it.
 

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