rodi water storage

[skelator]

hey guys i got a brs 5 stage plus rodi unit this week for my 46g bowfront. let me tell you what my plan is please tell me if theres anything wrong with it at all.

i got it all set up and i bought a 32 gallon brute trash can. my plan is to basicly fill the trash can with rodi. i got 2 5 galllon home depot buckets that i use to mix the salt water in. so im thinking ill pump water from the brute to the two 5 gal buckets and mix my salt water up ahead of time that way when i do my water changes its nice and quick. is there any adverse effects on the water if i let it sit in a trash can or bucket at all?

i usually do 5-10 gallon water changes once a week or so. i know the brute was overkill but thats how i usually do things it seems. i know im gonna upgrade to a big tank sometime in the future so ill need it at some point.

thanks for any help i really appreciate it!

 

[ifarmer]

if 32g is too big then go with a Brute 20g (round ) or 25g (square)
You can find them at either Homedeot or lowes

 

[55g]

I have a similar setup in my garage and have added a heater in the Brute so when water changes occur cold water doesn't shock the system. Dependent on where your setup is of course. Temp is a concern for me... That's east county San Diego. I get cold, burrrrrr.....

 

[skelator]

Does anything happen to the wAter if it just sits for any amount of time?

 

[Reefing Madness]

No. I have mine sitting for long periods, but your using it for top offs, so in reality you are using it. I have a powerhead in mine running at all times, then again mine is a 55g drum, filled.

 

[RacinRevo0818]

I store my Rodi water in brute trash cans and have just a simple air stone keeping the water aerated and seems to work for me.. It is well worth getting a Auto Shut Off Kit for Reverse Osmosis Systems - Bulk Reef Supply or you will be flooding your floor in no time.. Also the square brutes are really nice and waste less space then round.

 

[NC2WA]

skelator,

as long as the water is covered should be fine, but I would suggest dropping a powerhead in to add circulation..

my setup is similar but on a larger scale. I have a 55g vat with a heater that stores my rodi..I move water from this vat to a 165g vat where I mix my saltwater..it also has a heater..i have a eheim 1260 pump and ball valves that moves water from vats depending on which ball valves are open or closed.

 

[Mike J.]

The BRS 5 stage is equipped with an automatic shut off. Stored ro/di water will keep indefinitely with a lid. There is no need to aerate it, heat it, or circulate it. A float valve in your storage can will be very helpful and an in line ball valve in the line going to your storage can is also good. You'll want to fill your container all at once and then shut it off so it doesn't run small amounts at a time when you get top off water.

Reverse Osmosis Fittings & Valves - Bulk Reef Supply

 

[mcarroll]

+1!!

Also, mixing seawater in advance does reduce the available vitamins. It is best to mix and use it immediately.

If you're worried about how long that will take, don't.

Check out my water change a day thread where a bunch of us are doing it every single day. It takes me only about 10 minutes, including getting everything out and cleaning up.

Results and time-savings are both excellent!

Link: https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134613

-Matt

 

[skelator]

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/brs-5-stage-plus-ro-di-system-75gpd.html

thats what i got if i had to do it again i woulda got the 150 gpd one. the waste this thing produced in insane. ive been filling my washing machine with it and when the machine is full i simply dont make any more water. i also have a few water jugs ive been using for top off water aswell.

do you guys really get the tempatures all matched up before you do a change or does that small of a change not really make any difference?

thanks for all the replies i really appreciate it.

 

[Mike J.]

Here's an example: a 5 gal (70 degrees) water change in a 55 gal tank dropped the temp 4 degrees the other day. That is not good. It could kill shrimp and acros definitely don't like it. So, yes, I heat the salt water up.

 

[skelator]

Ok thanks for the info.

 

[mcarroll]

To keep it simple: If your water storage is room-temp, I wouldn't worry.

If your storage is cold or hot then you may have a concern.

-Matt

 

[skelator]

ill put the bucket by the woodstove to warm it up then check the temp next time.

 

[Mike J.]

I use a 50 watt heater in a five gallon bucket. It'll bring it up to temp in 15-20 minutes. I'll take RO/DI water and put a powerhead in the bucket for about ten minutes. Water comes out of a RO/DI unit with about zero dissolved oxygen, you'll get a lot less calcium precipitation this way. Then I'll add salt and a heater. So in about 30 minutes the water is ready to be put in the tank.

 

[TheSaint216]

Ill share since I just got done with my tank maintenance for the week. I started making water last night around 5 pm, which entails turning my RODI unit on into a 5 gallon bucket in the sink. It usually takes about 3 or 4 hours to fill it up and if it spills it goes down the drain. I lay down a towel and put the bucket on the kitchen counter, throw my salt in and throw a maxijet in and let it run till 5 pm today. I do this weekly. I think depending on where your at weather wise outside you might need a heater you might not. I have about 45 to 50 gallons of water volume total. Its easier for me to do this weekly, I used to have a bigger tank and had algae problems which could of been associated to the Brute container I was using, who knows. Just make sure you get the right container and dont buy the wrong one on an impulse.

 

[joekool]

Make sure you wash the brute out with vinegar and water. Store water in it for a couple days and check for Po4. Also go online and see if your public water supply uses chloramine different than chlorine if so I would recommend getting the chloramine model. An normal RO wont take it out and it's not good. I use the 6 stage for water with chloramine in it. Most people don't know it but a lot of public water companies are starting to use it.

Hope info helps you out.
Joseph

 

[skelator]

I'll have to check on that. I just rinsed it with water I didn't wanna get anything in there that I shouldn't. I just checked it for phosphate it came up with .25. Should I dump it and ditch the container? I thought brute containers are what people used.

 

[joekool]

You have to clean it with distilled white vinegar first than test again. I Personally don't hold water in mine for that reason. I fill with water and mix thats it. I don't use it for long term storage.

So yes we use them but I wouldn't store water in it for a long period of time.

 

[mcarroll]

It's come up so many times it's a little comical at this point. I think even in this thread.

Brutes are safe.
Tons of people use them.
There are no phosphates there to leach out.
The Hanna testers are also claimed not to work in ultra pure water, meaning these reading are either invalid or equivalent to zero.

Hope this helps!

-Matt

P.S. I think the whole question started with this thread, and somehow the myth gained momentum. I still like my answer from back then.