Roll Out Sump Ideas

[PharmrJohn]

So with my next (forever) build, I'm gonna have a 155g with a 36" sump/fuge. I'm determined to make this a roll out. I realize this will be a DIY project but when push comes to shove, I'm pretty handy with bringing odd ideas to life. I will plumb my system so that easy disconnection will be no issue. Also, I'll account for height when pulling the sump out with everything in it. I'm just not sure about the rolling mechanism. TIA. J.

 

[VintageReefer]

So with my next (forever) build, I'm gonna have a 155g with a 36" sump/fuge. I'm determined to make this a roll out. I realize this will be a DIY project but when push comes to shove, I'm pretty handy with bringing odd ideas to life. I will plumb my system so that easy disconnection will be no issue. Also, I'll account for height when pulling the sump out with everything in it. I'm just not sure about the rolling mechanism. TIA. J.

Put it on a low profile platform with rollerblade wheels

 

[GlassMunky]

Put it on a low profile platform with rollerblade wheels

Yea something like that or the wheels/bearings that they use for normal drawers.
I know they make industrial strength ones that can handle like over 600lbs I just don’t know where or what they are called but I seen them for things exactly like this.

 

[PharmrJohn]

Put it on a low profile platform with rollerblade wheels

Yea something like that or the wheels/bearings that they use for normal drawers.
I know they make industrial strength ones that can handle like over 600lbs I just don’t know where or what they are called but I seen them for things exactly like this.

So, really, I don't need the guides that pull out drawers require. I just need wheels and a platform. The stand could still have a lip at the bottom of the stand if I could fashion the platform to notch over it extend out (as an addition). Coolio! Thanks! Much appreciated!

 

[VintageReefer]

I would say one side of the stand should be a hinged door. You can build a long ramp or platform that you bring to the stand when you need to use it. Something 2-3” tall or however tall the inner platform of the stand is and then 2-3’ long

And I thought about the wheels, you need a housing for them, and rollerblade wheels need to rotate as you change directions and that would be difficult in a cabinet. You need fixed wheels (non swivel) as you have no turns and really need to slide horizontally out to clean / access and then horizontally back into place.

These would be better. Each wheel is rated for 200lbs…so a wheel in each corner is 800lbs and you can just mount to a platform. You could make a middle row of wheels also to prevent sagging

Make sure the platform is slightly larger than the sump - factor for the bolts, washers and nuts protruding a bit from each wheel

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[Dom]

Yea something like that or the wheels/bearings that they use for normal drawers.

There are industrial grade drawer rails meant to bear weight, but the weight of the sump may be more than a drawer rail can handle.

I see a stand with an open end (no rail on the floor) so that a separate platform on wheels sits directly on the floor. Now the entire sump can be supported on a wheeled platform.

 

[Dom]

So with my next (forever) build, I'm gonna have a 155g with a 36" sump/fuge. I'm determined to make this a roll out. I realize this will be a DIY project but when push comes to shove, I'm pretty handy with bringing odd ideas to life. I will plumb my system so that easy disconnection will be no issue. Also, I'll account for height when pulling the sump out with everything in it. I'm just not sure about the rolling mechanism. TIA. J.

Interesting idea. So what is the reason behind this idea; is it a "see if I can" project?

 

[VintageReefer]

Put sump on this. Or something like this
Done


Build small ramp or platform to roll onto

 

[GlassMunky]

Put sump on this. Or something like this
Done


Build small ramp or platform to roll onto

this just seems ghetto and janky to me......

 

[PharmrJohn]

Interesting idea. So what is the reason behind this idea; is it a "see if I can" project?

I've dealt with a leaking tank in the past. It was my 75g DT. So I had to take it down and replace it with a 90g. To do this I had to modify my stand to hold the extra weight, blah, blah, blah, it took me 2 or 3 days to complete (all livestock survived). When I did the switcharoo, I started worrying about the sump. What if that went bad and leaked? I would have to break everything down just to replace the sump. I NEVER want to do this again. As I am going with Glass Cages with my new build, their stands have doors on the side(s). So I thought I'd create a situation whereby all I have to do if the sump leaked would be to disconnect, roll it out, fix it (replace it), roll it back and reattach.

 

[GlassMunky]

I've dealt with a leaking tank in the past. It was my 75g DT. So I had to take it down and replace it with a 90g. To do this I had to modify my stand to hold the extra weight, blah, blah, blah, it took me 2 or 3 days to complete (all livestock survived). When I did the switcharoo, I started worrying about the sump. What if that went bad and leaked? I would have to break everything down just to replace the sump. I NEVER want to do this again. As I am going with Glass Cages with my new build, their stands have doors on the side(s). So I thought I'd create a situation whereby all I have to do if the sump leaked would be to disconnect, roll it out, fix it (replace it), roll it back and reattach.

i can do exactly that, minus the word "Roll"
My side doors come fully off and I can slide the whole sump out if need be. It would just need to be drained of water first to lessen the weight enough to drop the 2" to the floor.

 

[GlassMunky]

Steel stand with magnetic wooden panels make doing anything under the tank a breeze, all 3 sides can come off and go back on in under 3 minutes. i have access from every side except the back wall

 

[VintageReefer]

this just seems ghetto and janky to me......

It’s oak!

Fine I’ll find better

 

[VintageReefer]

I've dealt with a leaking tank in the past. It was my 75g DT. So I had to take it down and replace it with a 90g. To do this I had to modify my stand to hold the extra weight, blah, blah, blah, it took me 2 or 3 days to complete (all livestock survived). When I did the switcharoo, I started worrying about the sump. What if that went bad and leaked? I would have to break everything down just to replace the sump. I NEVER want to do this again. As I am going with Glass Cages with my new build, their stands have doors on the side(s). So I thought I'd create a situation whereby all I have to do if the sump leaked would be to disconnect, roll it out, fix it (replace it), roll it back and reattach.

Get an acrylic sump

 

[VintageReefer]

this just seems ghetto and janky to me......

Won’t even notice this once the sump is on it

 

[GlassMunky]

Won’t even notice this once the sump is on it

id notice every time i did something in the sump. Im super picky about aesthetics of things.

 

[VintageReefer]

id notice every time i did something in the sump. Im super picky about aesthetics of things.

How would you notice it if the sump is larger than the platform. It would look like a floating sump. Your head would have to be at ground level to see it

 

[GlassMunky]

my cabinet under the tank is much bigger than the sump. i have slot of space around my sump so i would absolutely see it.
I have enough space that i can literally crawn under my tank and sit next to my sump and ATO chamber (now that i no longer run a CARX and C02 tank).

We obviously have different ways of doing things and aesthetic choices. i much prefer the nice, clean, organized look vs a DIY jumble to save a few bucks.
But thats just me.

 

[PharmrJohn]

my cabinet under the tank is much bigger than the sump. i have slot of space around my sump so i would absolutely see it.
I have enough space that i can literally crawn under my tank and sit next to my sump and ATO chamber (now that i no longer run a CARX and C02 tank).

We obviously have different ways of doing things and aesthetic choices. i much prefer the nice, clean, organized look vs a DIY jumble to save a few bucks.
But thats just me.

Oh, I understand. I'm about as anal retentive as they come. I'm very much into form as well as function. It relaxes me. Also, as I teach my daughter on all issues and hardware, it makes it easier to understand if there's an order to the potential chaos.

 

[PharmrJohn]

Get an acrylic sump

Thought about that. Was actually looking at a few. Only reason I'm nervous about it is that I've never dealt with acrylic. I know, not a good reason. But the advantage is obvious. Is baffling a sump easier with acrylic compared to glass?