Royal Gramma Rubbing on Rocks

[Twotoedsloth]

Hey everyone, I noticed today that my Royal Gramma has started occasionally rubbing itself on the rock from time to time. I don’t see any noticeable spots or anything so I don’t think it’s ich. But I don’t know anything really.

I think maybe flukes, but I thought I would check on here and see. It’s a new behavior that I haven’t seen out of it in the 9 months it’s been in the tank. And I haven’t added anything new is several months.

I just wanted to check before I make a move.


Thanks

here's a video

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hey everyone, I noticed today that my Royal Gramma has started occasionally rubbing itself on the rock from time to time. I don’t see any noticeable spots or anything so I don’t think it’s ich. But I don’t know anything really.

I think maybe flukes, but I thought I would check on here and see. It’s a new behavior that I haven’t seen out of it in the 9 months it’s been in the tank. And I haven’t added anything new is several months.

I just wanted to check before I make a move.


Thanks

here's a video

Keep an eye on fish and water quality. Grammas and other basslets often do this twitching. I see no signs of elevated breathing or flashing/darting symptoms. I say water as the fish seems to have tail rot in lieu of aggression/nipping. Often can be due to poor water quality or bacterial.
If you want to safeguard the fish, you can use Ruby Rally Pro which is reef safe for inverts and coral to assure its not bacterial but still test and monitor water quality - Dont let Ruby Rally substitute need for water change

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hey everyone, I noticed today that my Royal Gramma has started occasionally rubbing itself on the rock from time to time. I don’t see any noticeable spots or anything so I don’t think it’s ich. But I don’t know anything really.

I think maybe flukes, but I thought I would check on here and see. It’s a new behavior that I haven’t seen out of it in the 9 months it’s been in the tank. And I haven’t added anything new is several months.

I just wanted to check before I make a move.


Thanks

here's a video

I also see some cloudiness and damage to the tail fin. How often does the scratching happen? If more than a few times a day, I would say it has flukes. Fluke infections can go months at low levels, but then fluke populations can rise, causing symptoms to develop.

Prazipro is mostly reef safe. You could dose it with GOOD aeration, twice, 8 days apart.

Jay

 

[Twotoedsloth]

I also see some cloudiness and damage to the tail fin. How often does the scratching happen? If more than a few times a day, I would say it has flukes. Fluke infections can go months at low levels, but then fluke populations can rise, causing symptoms to develop.

Prazipro is mostly reef safe. You could dose it with GOOD aeration, twice, 8 days apart.

Jay

Thanks,

It just started rubbing yesterday afternoon.

The tail is much longer than it seems in the pics and vid. I haven’t noticed any changes to its tail or fins since putting it in there 9 months ago. But if prazi doesn’t change anything I’ll try something for the fin rot vetteguy suggested.

 

[Twotoedsloth]

I also see some cloudiness and damage to the tail fin. How often does the scratching happen? If more than a few times a day, I would say it has flukes. Fluke infections can go months at low levels, but then fluke populations can rise, causing symptoms to develop.

Prazipro is mostly reef safe. You could dose it with GOOD aeration, twice, 8 days apart.

Keep an eye on fish and water quality. Grammas and other basslets often do this twitching. I see no signs of elevated breathing or flashing/darting symptoms. I say water as the fish seems to have tail rot in lieu of aggression/nipping. Often can be due to poor water quality or bacterial.
If you want to safeguard the fish, you can use Ruby Rally Pro which is reef safe for inverts and coral to assure its not bacterial but still test and monitor water quality - Dont let Ruby Rally substitute need for water change

Thanks for the info. My water parameters have been pretty stable for months and I do 10% water changes every Sunday, so I’m not sure what else I can do on that front. But I’m going to go see if my LFS has some Ruby Rally and see if that makes any difference.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Just an FYI - if it is flukes, Rally will not do much, if anything for it.

Jay

 

[Twotoedsloth]

Just an FYI - if it is flukes, Rally will not do much, if anything for it.

Jay

yeah, I'm going to try PraziPro first. I have that on hand. If there's no improvement then I might try Rally. Here's hoping!

Thanks
James

 

[Twotoedsloth]

yeah, I'm going to try PraziPro first. I have that on hand. If there's no improvement then I might try Rally. Here's hoping!

Thanks
James

Update: it has stopped eating now as well. Still rubs on the rock periodically and hasn’t eaten the last two feedings. Ate like normal yesterday morning. But now it won’t touch anything….

Going to start PraziPro this afternoon
Fingers crossed.

 

[Twotoedsloth]

Another update.


Seems there is a lot more going on here…. Is that ich?

Did a treatment of PraziPro, and it’s not rubbing against the rocks anymore, but then this afternoon it looks like this… and still didn’t eat today…

Sadness

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Another update.


Seems there is a lot more going on here…. Is that ich?

Did a treatment of PraziPro, and it’s not rubbing against the rocks anymore, but then this afternoon it looks like this… and still didn’t eat today…

Sadness

I see you have two threads with the same fish? That gets really confusing.....

Is this ich?

Is this ich I am seeing?

www.reef2reef.com

Jay