Ruby Reef Rally Question

64Ivy · Jul 4, 2019

I am planning to incorporate a Rally bath into my QT protocol as a first line of defense against incoming nasties, especially flukes, with online ordered fish. This will be administered before release into a copper pre-dosed (to 1.0 pmm) QT tank. So what is considered the 'proper' procedure for this bath. Amount? Follow directions? How long should this bath be? Also, would combining Reef Rally with Kick-Ich in this bath be considered a good idea? And finally, does this stuff expire? I picked up my current bottle at a MACNA 2-3 years ago and it has not been opened. If it makes any difference, I'm expecting a fairy wrasse in a day or two. Thanks in advance.

Thales · Jul 4, 2019

I have seen no evidence that those products do what it is claimed that they do.

Big G · Jul 4, 2019

Ruby Reef Rally is a very good product to have on hand. It does expire and lose potency. Most effective use is as a bath or QT treatment following a freshwater dip for suspected ich, velvet, brook. The bath/QT with RRR provides both antiseptic and antibiotic qualities that help with the many insertion points from the parasites. Results for his application have greatly increased survival rates for infected fish. This is its best application.

EmdeReef · Jul 4, 2019

64Ivy said:
I am planning to incorporate a Rally bath into my QT protocol as a first line of defense against incoming nasties, especially flukes, with online ordered fish. This will be administered before release into a copper pre-dosed (to 1.0 pmm) QT tank. So what is considered the 'proper' procedure for this bath. Amount? Follow directions? How long should this bath be? Also, would combining Reef Rally with Kick-Ich in this bath be considered a good idea? And finally, does this stuff expire? I picked up my current bottle at a MACNA 2-3 years ago and it has not been opened. If it makes any difference, I'm expecting a fairy wrasse in a day or two. Thanks in advance.

Ruby rally reef contains acriflavine, aminoacridine and formalin (based on some posted communications with the company on this forum, the concentration of formalin is very small and thus sounds like too subtherapeutic to matter. Regardless make sure to use proper precautions.) .

The first 2 are antiseptics and will help (assuming proper dosage) with superficial wounds or infections.

Usually a bath is done prior to placing a fish in a treatment tank with antibiotics. Acriflavine will act much faster than dosed antibiotics, which may give the fish a longer fighting chance when dealing with certain ailments. It’s sort of a first aid treatment.

A bath of 90min ~1teaspoon per gallon of ruby. It’s helpful with velvet, brooklynella (in many cases a single bath will remove most of the mucous), uronema (largely to help fight off secondary infections), aggression wounds etc. Make sure to aerate the water in a bath a lot as all 3 ingredients will quickly deplete O2.

Personally, I prefer using pure acriflavine but unfortunately it’s no longer readily available.

I don’t believe Kick-ich does anything. The company refuses to disclose what’s in it. To be very blunt if it were truly that effective and harmless the company would’ve been bought by one of the large veterinary pharma companies which, ( used to) spend millions in R&D on ich.