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Pretty sad and embarrassing at the same time to post, but figure lessons learned can be from the misfortune of others.

My tank is still fairly new, with a few fish and small candy coral, etc.

Anyway, I noticed that the coral was over time slowly starting to shrink up and bought a more reliable alkalinity test (vs. my API) and showed that the alkalinity was around 6.5. I wanted to raise it up to about 8-9, and saw some posts about alkalinity calculators for baking soda dosing. Well needless to say, I inadvertently used the wrong calculator (liquid pre-mixed vs. dry) and overdosed to ~14 hardness. I did an immediate 20% water change at the time, brought it down to about 12.5. The next day, fish were fine, eating, nothing to note (pH was around 8.1, temperature 78, etc.)

However, this morning all the fish were dead. My candy coral was showing signs of skeleton too. My sea urchin was showing a little stress with loss of some spines. Clean up crew seemed ok. I moved the urchin and coral to my frag tank.

I have a refugium which runs at night, and didn't have my protein skimmer on at the time during the night...so not sure if there was some sea-saw of a pH swing, or just a delayed response to the high alkalinity. I lost my clown, chromis, and royal gramma...feel awful about this foolish mistake. I even told myself, seems like a lot of baking soda to add.....

Anyway, if any others are wanting to make adjustments, and just "aren't sure", don't know "why"...reach out so you can hopefully avoid a similar error!
 
Sorry man. Hopefully you can get your tank straightened out and get some new livestock. Good luck!!!! I always used to "bake" my baking soda into soda ash so it doesn't drop the PH initially like baking soda does. I switched to All for Reef awhile back and have been happy with it. It's really simple. (I also run kalkwasser in my ATO)

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I'm a little confused as to the cause and effect since I do not see why a fish would die from a baking soda overdose to 14 dKH. I've never tried it, but lots of folks overdose without fish dying.

Are you sure it was baking soda and not baking powder?
 
I'm a little confused as to the cause and effect since I do not see why a fish would die from a baking soda overdose to 14 dKH. I've never tried it, but lots of folks overdose without fish dying.

Are you sure it was baking soda and not baking powder?
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Baking soda, 100% bicarbonate. It's the only thing I can think of what happened. I checked the salinity of the salt water added, it was 35 ppt. Water in DT was same. Looking at the coral this morning it's as if they crisped up, so I thought maybe it was some pH burn, but pH measured fine. Since the only thing was add the baking soda, I have no other thoughts to the cause...
 
Sorry man. Hopefully you can get your tank straightened out and get some new livestock. Good luck!!!! I always used to "bake" my baking soda into soda ash so it doesn't drop the PH initially like baking soda does. I switched to All for Reef awhile back and have been happy with it. It's really simple. (I also run kalkwasser in my ATO)

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Umm, Soda Ash (Sodium Carbonate) raises pH and Alk, while Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) raises Alk only and doesn't affect pH.
 
Also thought, maybe it was some oxygen depletion...but everything is running normal, with return pump rippling the top, powerhead on too. The only "changes" are really adding overdose of baking soda (I added about 7 tsp for a 50 gallon total water volume!), and had my protein skimmer off the night this time after cleaning it.
 
I'm a little confused as to the cause and effect since I do not see why a fish would die from a baking soda overdose to 14 dKH. I've never tried it, but lots of folks overdose without fish dying.

Are you sure it was baking soda and not baking powder?
Your comment made me rack my brain over and over about the cause if not alkalinity...pH, temperature, etc. I had noticed the fish a few days ago seem a bit off after cleaning the tank. I actually thought maybe detritus in the water got stirred up or something. Well after reading a lot of sources someone mentioned to never use a kitchen sponge for cleaning. I used a brand new sponge to clean...and thought the one I used was 100% natural but found it had a high anti microbial compound in it. It's possible that using it may have messed up with the micro balance or in unison with the sudden water parameter changes was the tipping point. I've used the same sponges for my other freshwater tanks but they are heavily planted which may have lessened a negative impact.

Again, very sad lesson, but sharing for others as well. Thank you for your help.
 
marine fish are very finicky to ph swings. Do you have any type of ph monitor on the tank?
 

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