Safe FOR your reef but not safe FROM your reef?

Should the cleaner wrasse be left in the ocean?

  • YES

    Votes: 209 37.3%
  • NO

    Votes: 114 20.4%
  • NOT SURE

    Votes: 219 39.1%
  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 18 3.2%

  • Total voters
    560

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The Cleaner Wrasse is safe FOR your reef but are they safe FROM your reef? Some say YES and others say NO! Others have had long term success but most have been unsuccessful!

From Live Aquaria: This unique fish forms a symbiotic relationship with other species by setting up a “cleaning station” to remove unwanted parasites that may have attached themselves. The Cleaner Wrasse will invite fish to their “cleaning station” by performing a calming up and down movement of their tails. These fish may even clean the inside of larger fish’s mouths and gills. Procured through a short supply chain in the Western Indian Ocean in very small numbers, the African and Maldivian Bluestreak Cleaner Wrasse can thrive in the home aquarium. Requiring advanced care, we recommend this species is only considered by the experienced marine aquarist. The Bluestreak Cleaner Wrasse requires plenty of swimming room as they are very active fish, and should be housed with dissimilar shaped and colored fishes in the community marine aquarium. A tight fitting lid or canopy is a must as they can leap from open topped aquariums or into uncovered overflow boxes in reef ready style displays.

The Bluestreak Cleaner Wrasse must be fed small quantities of fresh, meaty food multiple times per day as they do not have the ability to eat large meals at one sitting. Ideal offerings include small pieces of vitamin enriched frozen mysis shrimp, vitamin enriched frozen brine shrimp, and other smaller, meaty foods. Once fully adjusted to the home aquarium these fishes can also be offered a high quality marine flake and tiny marine pellet food to complement their staple diet of enriched frozen food.

So let's talk about it!

1. Should the cleaner wrasse be left in the ocean?

2. What is your experience with these wrasse?



The cleaner wrasse not the tang!
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I’ve personally never owned a cleaner wrasse.
 
mine is doing quite well.
only 1 1/2, but healthy and active.
I don't qt, so it keeps busy.
That’s really good!
 
1. Should the cleaner wrasse be left in the ocean?

If you had asked me this a decade ago I would have said yes. Now I think there is enough information, for the motivated aquarist, to keep one happy and healthy. That being said, tank breed and raised or aqua-cultured is a better way to go when possible.

2. What is your experience with these wrasse?


I have kept cleaner wrasses every tank I have has since the early 2000s.Early on, up to about a decade ago, they would not live long. I was always told they have a short life span or "Some fish just die". Total garbage information and 100% not true. Fish don't just die without cause, there is always a reason for it. Also the life span of these fish is more than 6 months to a year. My current CW is 2 yo this month and very happy and healthy. Why? Because I took the time to learn what it needs to be happy and live a good life.

I love this fish and do not treat it as a cure for ich. To me this fish is just one of my pets and it is not expendable.

Remember; even with live stock, the most expensive part of this hobby is impatience.

Enjoy the hobby!
 
IDK i see both sides of the aisle on this one i think there is defiantly a learning curve that needs to be learned but once some one has the appropriate tank and knowledge i see no reason why they shouldnt be able to have this type of fish.
 
The only specialized fish I have is a mandarin goby and it took over a year with a refugium and research before I was confident enough to get one. And after six months he seems fat and happy but I still skip a beat when I don't see him right away. So I wouldn't get a fish like a cleaner wrasse until I had exhausted my research and I was sure my system could support one. But I voted yes because what little have read makes me believe they can be kept successfully.
 
1. Should the cleaner wrasse be left in the ocean?

2. What is your experience with these wrasse?
1. No - at least no more than any other fish we keep.
2. Have had several most did well. I did not have the experience of the fish needing 'multiple meaty small feedings' per day. Mine ate flake food - and picked at stuff all over the tank (in general). If I were going to buy one now, I would only get it from a local store who had it eating (well), and that has not gone through a recent over night shipment, etc.
 
If you got a big tank with a lot of tangs they can harass I think they’d do fine. Probably have issues with a small number of fish as they will be aggressively bothering them.

There’s other fish that will act like cleaners part-time (candy yellow hogfish, grammas) which might be better overall in smaller tanks. Or just have a couple cleaner shrimps.
 
I've done a TON of research on this

AFRICAN Cleaner Wrasses (Eastern Africa and the Red Sea to French Polynesia) can be sustained in captivity for years bc they eat prepared food right along side your other fish. They MUST MUST MUST be Marketed as an "African" Cleaner Wrasse. Their only demise is them jumping out of the tank.

You absolutely need to visually see them eat mysis prior to buying it at the LFS. Not eating? Probably not an African Cleaner Wrasse. AVOID & WALK AWAY.

Indo-Pacific Cleaner Wrasses are a total disaster bc they have a special diet. They will NOT eat prepared food, live food, nothing. Complete waste of your time. They will last about 30 days in your tank and eventually hide in a hole and starve to death. One day you just quit seeing them and they die.. Irresponsible to even attempt owning one IMO.

I've kept one African Cleaner Wrasse for 5 years. Most last about 2 years before carpet-surfing

Africans are a great utility fish for multiple Tang owners. Tangs will chase down an African to get cleaned. The Tangs are very happy and mellow after cleaning that it improves the Tangs health a lot IMO. Definitely worth having a African if you own 3 or more Tangs.


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If you got a big tank with a lot of tangs they can harass I think they’d do fine. Probably have issues with a small number of fish as they will be aggressively bothering them.

There’s other fish that will act like cleaners part-time (candy yellow hogfish, grammas) which might be better overall in smaller tanks. Or just have a couple cleaner shrimps.

Or get a cleaner goby, which even bears some resemblance to a cleaner wrasse! Also available captive bred

 
Very interesting fish, for a very large aquarium only, with LOTS of big fish. They will harass the sh!! out of your fish, if you don't have enough of them for it to pick on, even if it is eating prepared foods. Best to keep that in mind. Definitely prefer to stop pulling them out of the ocean, if aquaculture is available. If you really need something that will clean your fish, cleaner shrimp is 100% better, IMO.
 
I don't have any, but I wouldn't mind having a pair. Buddy of mine has 2, Labroides dimidiatus. He's had them for two years or so, no problems. Gotta feed multiple times a day, but with the abundance of reliable auto feeders and high quality pellet foods these days, it's not that big a deal. His like PE Mysid pellets.

Bali Aquarich successfully raised fry as far back as 2013, though I've not heard anything about commercial level success yet.


Biota is selling Hawaiian cleaner wrasses (Labroides phthirophagus) when they're in stock.


Look at cleaner wrasses like the Mandarins a few years back. Yeah, they're tough to keep, but with successful breeding, we won't be stripping them from the oceans anymore, and captive bred animals are generally easier to keep.

No rush. We'll get there :D
 
Yes and no. With the high mortality rate, in captivity, I feel like any fish should be left in the ocean.

BUT, I've have on that's been with me for a year and a half and it was with another for over a year, previously. It's hard to make the call because of my success. I also feel like having 5 tangs and a few fairy wrasses in the tank has contributed to the long term success with this individual too. It definitely eats small pieces of frozen, but I don't feel like they're good candidates for a complete frozen food diet.

If anything, I feel like any special care requirements should be carefully considered before jumping into buying one.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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