Salinity measurement face off! Hanna, Milwaukee, Neptune

Thanks for the great write-up! I've got the Hanna coming in the mail today and am pretty excited to check it out. Will post my own impression soon. I should be be able to check it against a calibrated, fancy pants lab-grade conductivity probe in a couple days so will update when that happens.
 
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Just unboxed and calibrated my Hanna. The salinity of my tank read 35.4 ppt which is inline with what I expected. Calibrated my refractometer and it read 36ppt which is pretty much inline (my Mg is at 1450ppm which should cause the refractometer to read ~0.5 ppt higher than what it actually is. Really loving this thing so far! Great packaging, instructions, and super easy calibration process.
 
I also acquired the new version... a great quality piece of kit as well, just a different storage solution

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I use this and hardly ever have to adjust
 
Thank you everyone for your feedback and we appreciate your support/comments. Wanted to share a few points on comparing refractometers to electrical conductivity meters like our HI98319 salinity meter. This information can be found on our blog posted here: http://blog.hannainst.com/salinity-measurements-in-aquariums

There are a number of ways to perform salinity measurements in your aquarium. The most well-known methods by marine aquarists include using hydrometers, refractometers and conductivity meters. A method commonly used for aquariums are hydrometers, particularly swing-arm models. These can be problematic as they do not compensate for sample temperature, need to be hydrated with sample prior to use and can be prone to inaccuracies. Optical refractometers designed for seawater also have downsides. Even though calibration solution exists, determining salinity can be difficult and not always easy to read. Optical refractometers are often calibrated to a specific temperature range and if your sample temperature does not fit in that range, your results can be skewed.

Conductivity is a measurement of the dissolved ionic solids present in the water. Additionally conductivity may also be used as a means to measure salinity, as the salts become ions when dissolved in water that can conduct an electrical current sensed by the meter and measured in mS/cm. Temperature is important when reading salinity as the mobility of ions increases when the water becomes warmer or slower when cooler.

When comparing conductivity meters to refractometers to measure salinity, the consensus among the scientific community favors conductivity. This is because there is often non-conductive material in your sample which can impact the refractive index of seawater but not the actual salt concentration. For example, if we add sugar to artificial seawater, we will see that our salinity value will increase on a refractometer but we have not changed the concentration of salt in the water. If we measured the salinity of that sample with our HI98319 conductivity meter you’ll notice the value is largely unchanged. It is common to have inflated values with a refractometer due to the large number of materials which will affect the density of that water outside of the dissolved salt values. For example, anti-caking agent in salt mixes, organic waste, sugars, potential non-ionic contaminants or uneaten fish food can increase the values produced on a refractometer but this would be less likely to occur on a conductivity meter like the HI98319. Added bonuses of using conductivity to measure salinity are that you no longer have a light interference, and the temperature compensation is of your direct sample and not as influenced by ambient atmosphere near the surface of a prism.
 
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anti-caking agent in salt mixes, organic waste, sugars, potential non-ionic contaminants or uneaten fish food can increase the values produced on a refractometer
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So i have both... the HI 96822 that i have used forever... today i got the hi98319. And i have s pretty big difference. The legacy refractometer type that is like the Milwaukee says 1.025 on all my tanks. The new conductivity meter says 1.022 or 1.023... which is a decent difference and is concerning.

Also it says my temp is about 4 degrees lower than my glass and other digital thermometers says.

Now that it been a few months... which do you guys trust. If its the new meter i need to raise my salinity. Having a hard time trusting it with it being a .002 difference and the temp being off.
 
I have a Misco palm abbe 2 and really like it.
 
I trust Milwaukee..... but, has it been calibrated?
I would take reading from both and then a water sample to your LFS and see what number they come up with and which instrument you have is closer to reading
 
Both have been calibrated. According to Hanna the refractometer version has a variance of plus or minus .002 and the electrical has a variance of .001. I have emailed them and they are checking with management to see which one they think I should trust. I don't know that my lfs would have any better results since they use one of the old school refractometers that you look through in the light
 
I use a refractometer and always place the calibration solution into the sump to let it warm up first. i also have a neptune. When i calibrated it i let it air dry for 24 hours before hand. Recently i bought new calibration fluid for mt refractor. It was off from my old calibration fluid my 1.026 vs 1.024. The latter being the new. my apex had been reading hifh all this time. So i lowered the salinity back to 1.026 using the new fluid. my apex currently reads 34.9
 
Late to the party and like the Hanna but when mixing salt always cross reference with Tropicmarin precision hydrometer
 

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