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I'm a newbee coming up to speed on the fly while building a 50 gallon reef/fish tank. I plan to use a top-off system to replenish evaporated water in the tank. It is my understanding that, when the tank's water evaporates, the salt stays in the tank's water. (1) So why do I ever need to do partial tank water refreshes? And (2) How and when do I add more salt to the water? Thanks for your help. V
 
The salt isn’t the only thing your tank needs. All the organisms living in there require trace elements added into the salt mix and those trace elements get depleted. Water changes replenish the trace elements. Top off is used in between water changes to keep the salinity stable. Some people choose to dose the elements instead of doing water changes. Water changes also remove detritus and nitrates from your system, which fuel algae growth.
 
You do NOT add the salt directly to a tank with living animals. You mix the salt separately then when it is completely mixed, add it to your tank. But only if you removed the same amount before, or you will cause a drop or spike in salinity.
 
I'm a newbee coming up to speed on the fly while building a 50 gallon reef/fish tank. I plan to use a top-off system to replenish evaporated water in the tank. It is my understanding that, when the tank's water evaporates, the salt stays in the tank's water. (1) So why do I ever need to do partial tank water refreshes? And (2) How and when do I add more salt to the water? Thanks for your help. V
Welcome! I am new to SW too. Suggest you read Ron Reefman's articles on saltwater aquariums on this blog. Go to the search menu on the top right hand side; also look under articles above. Also, there are great videos on Bulk Reef Supply's website covering hundreds of SW topics. The more you know, the more fun you will have and end up making less mistakes. Good luck!
 
My suggestion is DO NOT add anything living to your tank other than bacteria. If your asking a question like that, you need to research and learn basics first. It will save you money, spare needless deaths and limit your frustration. Your going to have to stabilize ph, go thru diatom outbreaks etc. Go slow and research step by step. You'll enjoy the results.
 
Hi gang, I'm doing my research due diligence and following how-to videos like 'myfirstfishtank' series, reeftoreef, etc. I am automating all needed nutrients and have full testing solutions and controls including Apex. My question here is: How and when do I add or replace salt to the water?
 
Hi gang, I'm doing my research due diligence and following how-to videos like 'myfirstfishtank' series, reeftoreef, etc. I am automating all needed nutrients and have full testing solutions and controls including Apex. My question here is: How and when do I add or replace salt to the water?
How and when so I add or replace salt to the water? When you “add salt to the water” you don’t literally do that. If your salinity is getting low then you mix concentrated salt water (above1.025) to help raise the salt levels to where they should be. Evaporation does not remove salt because it is a solid compound, it stays in the water therefore you only need to add the fresh water to replace the evaporation. The only thing removing salt is you at the water changes and your protein skimmer. When to replace the salt water? There is many reasons, either to replenish the elements for corals, when you need to siphon your detritus from the sand, if you have high nitrates, or anytime you pull water out of your tank. Hope this helps to answer your specific question.
 
What kind of filter? If you have sump/ wet-dry set your water level, top off every night or morning. If you have hang on or canister, top off to bottom of rim/tank trim. As for water changes I would start with 10% weekly or 20% every other week. Thereafter will depend on tank maturity, stocking of tank and what your running. Skimmer?? Quality/type of filter? rated to proper gallons? Many factors, many adjustment til ecologically and chemically balanced, changes when you add/remove fish/livestock.
 
How and when so I add or replace salt to the water? When you “add salt to the water” you don’t literally do that. If your salinity is getting low then you mix concentrated salt water (above1.025) to help raise the salt levels to where they should be. Evaporation does not remove salt because it is a solid compound, it stays in the water therefore you only need to add the fresh water to replace the evaporation. The only thing removing salt is you at the water changes and your protein skimmer. When to replace the salt water? There is many reasons, either to replenish the elements for corals, when you need to siphon your detritus from the sand, if you have high nitrates, or anytime you pull water out of your tank. Hope this helps to answer your specific question.
helpful; thx much
 
If you go to YouTube and search saltwateraquarium.com budget reef tank series, you will find lots of short episodes that cover things from flow, cycling, to water changes. Easy watches and full of information.
 
How often you do water changes will depend on different aspects in your setup. Ocean water is extremely clean in comparison to water found inland. The lifeforms you want to keep, will determine how clean you need to keep your tank.Lifeforms that live near coastlines will need nutrients in the water column, that deepwater lifeforms cannot tolerate at all. How you need to keep your tank will be determined by what you wish to keep in it.

Since you wish to focus on dosing the additives and only make very few water changes, you will need to be on top of two things: organic detritus and nitrate buildup.

Therefore there will be two things you can do to lower your need of water changes, which is to have a huge sump and a huge skimmer. You can grow beneficial algae in the sump that assist in removing nitrates. An overpowered skimmer assist in removing organic compounds in the water column.

While you stock up your tank, you will need to do regular testing to keep an eye on the buildup of nitrates, and you need to keep an eye on your skimmer, which will help you judge how much pollution is in your water column: and that will determine how often you need to make water changes. If your nitrates run too high, fix it with a water change and if your skimmer cannot keep up with the organic detritus, fix it with a water change. Eventually you will know exactly what your tank needs and that is when you know for sure, how often it will need to have water changes.

I actually keep a nano in the exact opposite way, I never dose anything but make fairly regular water changes. I just don't like fiddling around with dosing anything and the only cnidarian I keep is one anemone so it gets everything covered that it needs from the water changes.

It all depends on what is right for your mood and what is right for your tank, and as I mentioned, remember to determine if you wish to keep lifeforms that can handle a degree of pollution or those that cannot and don't stop testing and keep developing your dosing parameters, until you are sure that nothing is changing in your tank. Remember that the salt mixes will have additional additives & adjust you don't overdose after water changes. Corals will have changing needs for nutrients as they grow and flourish and the less you do water changes, the more you need to do tests, to make sure that you know exactly how to dose your tank as it develops.

As people already pointed out, never add salt to the tank, nothing in a tank can tolerate the salt, so always make the water mix in accordance with the mixing instructions and allow the water to stir for long enough to get the salt crystals completely dissolved.
 
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How often you do water changes will depend on different aspects in your setup. Ocean water is extremely clean in comparison to water found inland. The lifeforms you want to keep, will determine how clean you need to keep your tank.Lifeforms that live near coastlines will need nutrients in the water column, that deepwater lifeforms cannot tolerate at all. How you need to keep your tank will be determined by what you wish to keep in it.

Since you wish to focus on dosing the additives and only make very few water changes, you will need to be on top of two things: organic detritus and nitrate buildup.

Therefore there will be two things you can do to lower your need of water changes, which is to have a huge sump and a huge skimmer. You can grow beneficial algae in the sump that assist in removing nitrates. An overpowered skimmer assist in removing organic compounds in the water column.

While you stock up your tank, you will need to do regular testing to keep an eye on the buildup of nitrates, and you need to keep an eye on your skimmer, which will help you judge how much pollution is in your water column: and that will determine how often you need to make water changes. If your nitrates run too high, fix it with a water change and if your skimmer cannot keep up with the organic detritus, fix it with a water change. Eventually you will know exactly what your tank needs and that is when you know for sure, how often it will need to have water changes.

I actually keep a nano in the exact opposite way, I never dose anything but make fairly regular water changes. I just don't like fiddling around with dosing anything and the only cnidarian I keep is one anemone so it gets everything covered that it needs from the water changes.

It all depends on what is right for your mood and what is right for your tank, and as I mentioned, remember to determine if you wish to keep lifeforms that can handle a degree of pollution or those that cannot and don't stop testing and keep developing your dosing parameters, until you are sure that nothing is changing in your tank. Remember that the salt mixes will have additional additives & adjust you don't overdose after water changes. Corals will have changing needs for nutrients as they grow and flourish and the less you do water changes, the more you need to do tests, to make sure that you know exactly how to dose your tank as it develops.

As people already pointed out, never add salt to the tank, nothing in a tank can tolerate the salt, so always make the water mix in accordance with the mixing instructions and allow the water to stir for long enough to get the salt crystals completely dissolved.
(Therefore there will be two things you can do to lower your need of water changes, which is to have a huge sump and a huge skimmer. You can grow beneficial algae in the sump that assist in removing nitrates. An overpowered skimmer assist in removing organic compounds in the water column.) perfect! This is how I run my system. The only time I change water is when the buildup of detritus from fish poop is in the sand. I have a large section to grow cheato so I never have to worry about nitrates or phosphate, it does such a great job the I don’t even test anymore because it’s always significantly low. To me this is the least way to maintain a reef. I dose calcium and alkalinity and siphon sand every 3 months!!!
 
The only time I change water is when the buildup of detritus from fish poop is in the sand. I have a large section to grow cheato so I never have to worry about nitrates or phosphate, it does such a great job the I don’t even test anymore because it’s always significantly low. To me this is the least way to maintain a reef. I dose calcium and alkalinity and siphon sand every 3 months!!!

Nice, well done! I wanted a tank that took a lot of time and effort and man, did I get my wish fulfilled! Only making watermixes to siphon the sandbed can be my retirement plan.

Keep up the good work everybody!
 
I'm a newbee coming up to speed on the fly while building a 50 gallon reef/fish tank. I plan to use a top-off system to replenish evaporated water in the tank. It is my understanding that, when the tank's water evaporates, the salt stays in the tank's water. (1) So why do I ever need to do partial tank water refreshes? And (2) How and when do I add more salt to the water? Thanks for your help. V

Welcome to R2R. We perform a 20% water change on the 1st and 15th of the month.
 

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