Sand removal for Dino’s?

[Trillaman954]

I’ve been battling Dino’s for almost 2 months and still am getting beat. I’m Increasing po4, dosing dinoX(in11th dose), have done several black outs,stopped w/c but no much luck. Now at least my corals are starting to open up. But I am loosing my acans. I’ve read that they release palytoxins so I started running carbon which I just started today. I also just reduced my photo periodo to 6 hours from 12 today as well. Should Ubaldo remove all the sand, put it in a bucket with a wave maker and keep it completely dark until they Dino’s disappear from my main display? Then add the sand once it’s completely gone? Idk what type of Dino’s it is and I don’t have money for a microscope.

 

[PharmrJohn]

The dinos.......Do they disappear when lights go out only to reappear when the lights come back on? As you don't have a microscope we can at the very least see if they are Ostreopsis.....

And how long were your black out periods?

 

[slingfox]

In my opinion you are doing a lot of relatively non-effective things to combat dinos. Assuming you have dinos and not some other ugly, these are things that are commonly recommended. I did all of these to get a massive dino outbreak h see control:

1. Manual removal of as much dinos as possible. This can be done via a combo of siphoning of growth from the rock and sand as well as removing the rock and sand and giving them a deep scrub and/or rinse outside of the tank. You can also get the dinos into the water column and run the water through a polishing filter or low micro n sock. My dinos grew so fast I had to do massive manual remodels every few days for at least a month. Very time consuming and painful but over time the dinos come back with less vigor as they are outcompeted

2. Run tank water through UV 24/7

3. Make sure nitrates and phosphate are detectable. For me Thai meant dosing nitrates and testing for nitrates and phosphate every 1-2 days to make sure they were within range.

4. Dose silicate every day

5. Dose bottles bacteria every day

6. People also recommend dosing copepods. I did so but due to the expense I only did so a few tiems

7. If your tank is relatively new, get some live rock and/or live sand tonic reset biodiversity

 

[Trillaman954]

The dinos.......Do they disappear when lights go out only to reappear when the lights come back on? As you don't have a microscope we can at the very least see if they are Ostreopsis.....

And how long were your black out periods?

They are there all day and night and black out was for 3 days whiched seemed to help but they came back.

 

[danreef55]

Follow @SF advice it is sound.

 

[PharmrJohn]

At this point it's gonna be difficult to know how to proceed without a microscope (at least to me). You'd need to see what the cell looks like as well as how they move. In the absence of hardware, I'd follow @slingfox

 

[Trillaman954]

In my opinion you are doing a lot of relatively non-effective things to combat dinos. Assuming you have dinos and not some other ugly, these are things that are commonly recommended. I did all of these to get a massive dino outbreak h see control:

1. Manual removal of as much dinos as possible. This can be done via a combo of siphoning of growth from the rock and sand as well as removing the rock and sand and giving them a deep scrub and/or rinse outside of the tank. You can also get the dinos into the water column and run the water through a polishing filter or low micro n sock. My dinos grew so fast I had to do massive manual remodels every few days for at least a month. Very time consuming and painful but over time the dinos come back with less vigor as they are outcompeted

2. Run tank water through UV 24/7

3. Make sure nitrates and phosphate are detectable. For me Thai meant dosing nitrates and testing for nitrates and phosphate every 1-2 days to make sure they were within range.

4. Dose silicate every day

5. Dose bottles bacteria every day

6. People also recommend dosing copepods. I did so but due to the expense I only did so a few tiems

7. If your tank is relatively new, get some live rock and/or live sand tonic reset biodiversity

its 1 year old tank btw

 

[slingfox]

its 1 year old tank btw

Keep at it. Over time things should get better! What kind of hardscape do you have? Ie, I assume it was dry rock? If so, was it Marco Rocks or something else?

 

[Trillaman954]

Keep at it. Over time things should get better! What kind of hardscape do you have? Ie, I assume it was dry rock? If so, was it Marco Rocks or something else?

it was macro plus some live rock form lfs, later on i added more live rock from my local beach. im on south FL