Seachem flourish or Seachem flourish?

[cracker]

Man did I just screw up ! Last week ordered& received 2 ,500 mls bottles of SeaChem Flourish Excel. Just looked & it's a carbon, iron additive I wanted the Flourish for Po4 ! Right now I need about 5 mls of the po4. Could somebody "please" tell me when will I learn to pay attention?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

lol

Did you dose it?

 

[cracker]

No I sure didn't. Last thing I want is to dose something I don't know what it will do. Have any suggestions ?
Any way it's back to the LFs for a tiny "pricy" bottle.

 

[cracker]

Did some research on this stuff "somebody "said it killed algae ?
dosing co2 would cause Ph issues right?
Can I use this stuff for anything? Says it's an iron source but I don't know

 

[reeferfoxx]

Can I use this stuff for anything?

Planted tank

 

[cracker]

Planted tank

AAHH Man ,I just blew 22 bucks this stuff ! ;Facepalm

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

It would have 2 effects, and would be like dosing vitamin C in that it adds organic carbon and is a reducing agent/antioxidant. It probably wouldn’t hurt anything.

 

[reeferfoxx]

It would have 2 effects, and would be like dosing vitamin C in that it adds organic carbon and is a reducing agent/antioxidant. It probably wouldn’t hurt anything.

Not sure its that safe though. It's glutaraldehyde and can be toxic.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Not sure its that safe though. It's glutaraldehyde and can be toxic.

How do you know the chemical?

 

[reeferfoxx]

How do you know the chemical?

It was in the MSDS sheet for Excel. It's been well known for years but the old links dont work anymore. I could probably find it for you after work.

 

[reeferfoxx]

How do you know the chemical?

Ok here is Seachems response to the ingredient. They call it Polycycloglutaracetal.

http://www.seachem.com/support/foru...cience-behind-excel-paraguard-and-stressguard

This somewhat explains the chemical.

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/glutaraldehyde

However, most folks in the planted forums and myself use glutaraldehyde with the same results. Only we use a reduce dose or diluted mixture for auto dosing. It's a cheaper route so to speak.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Thanks. Some hobby companies love to mislead folks on what the products actually are.

 

[cracker]

Is this stuff any use to me? I'm ready to discard it. Can I use it outside for my plants as fertilizer ?
I tired of looking at it !

 

[beaslbob]

FWIW I don't use excel or any other chemicals on my FW planted. Seachem site specifically warns the excel will have anacharis. It's used as a substitute for co2.

I wish I could make you feel better so hopefully I'm wrong. LOL

ps "wasting" $20 is cheap in this hobby.

 

[beaslbob]

...
Could somebody "please" tell me when will I learn to pay attention?

I'm too poor to pay attention.

 

[flchamp89]

AI is found in disinfectants commonly used on medical instruments. It's carbon based. As mentioned it's common in the world of planted tanks. I have used it.

 

[Scrubber_steve]

Is this stuff any use to me? I'm ready to discard it. Can I use it outside for my plants as fertilizer ?
I tired of looking at it !

Mail it back

 

[Beefyreefy]

Its widely known in the planted tank community to be Glutaraldehyde; Which is also the medical grade disinfectant Cidex, I believe. It is used as a carbon source for plants but also can be used to rid algae when overdosed (off label technique).