Seachem Phosphorous vs. Brightwell Neophos.

[Uncle99]

I need to dose phosphates in my my full 180g mixed reef or it will zero out.
I’ve used Brightwells Neophos and this worked well to maintain 0.08-0.1ppm.

Does anyone use Seachem Flourish Phosphorous supplement to increase phosphate?

Sea Chem posts the product is “derived from” momopotassium phosphate but I see nothing for Brightwell Neophos.

Any guidance, comments or experiences would be appreciated.

 

[Idoc]

I dose the Seachem Flourish phosphorus when I need a Po4 boost...never a problem noticed.

 

[Uncle99]

Perfect! Hoping that was the case, Seachem I can get anywhere.
I appreciate the quick response.

 

[blasterman]

I also use the Seachem since I'm phosphate limited.

Does exactly what its supposed to. Last time my SPS tank bottomed out with phosphate and I added Seachem back up to .03 the effects were immediate and obvious improvements in growth, especially with birdsnests.

 

[rmurken]

PO4 is PO4. The amount you need is so small that I wouldn’t fret over one vs. the other. For my 55G system, I dose a few ml of a .2% solution of bulk monopotassium phosphate I had for a FW planted tank, and it’s fine.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

IMO, a better choice than either is to use a known product of known purity, such as food grade sodium phosphate.

 

[NeonRabbit221B]

I chuckle at people spending $15 of a bottled brand when you can buy lab/food grade stuff for the same price and make 100 bottles worth.

 

[Saltyanimals]

Now where is the food grade nitrate mix? =)

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Now where is the food grade nitrate mix? =)

There are several acceptable brands. Loudwolf is one:

Sodium Nitrate 1 Pound 2 Bottles

The item for sale is 1 Lb (16 Ounces) of Sodium Nitrate (NaNO3). You get 2 bottles each containing 8 ounces of product. Sodium Nitrate, also known as Chile Salt Petr, is a white powder which is very soluble in water. For Potassium Nitrate, check out our o

www.loudwolf.com

 

[Saltyanimals]

Nice, Randy. That's a heck of alot cheaper than neonitrate being able to mix my own. Thank you

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Nice, Randy. That's a heck of alot cheaper than neonitrate being able to mix my own. Thank you

You're welcome.

Happy Reefing

 

[reefingaz]

one:

Thanks Randy. So would we dose this product the same amount as dosing Neonitrate or other nitrate products? Is it also mixed just as instructed in the bottle or do we do another formula since we are using it for our tanks? Thanks in advance!

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Thanks Randy. So would we dose this product the same amount as dosing Neonitrate or other nitrate products? Is it also mixed just as instructed in the bottle or do we do another formula since we are using it for our tanks? Thanks in advance!

Neonitrate is a liquid, I believe. This is the dry solid.

Use this calculator and procedure and use the entry for potassium nitrate (it is close enough):

James' Planted Tank - Dosing Calculator

 

[Saltyanimals]

I have pure potassium nitrate on hand. Is that a comparable product?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I have pure potassium nitrate on hand. Is that a comparable product?

IMO, sodium is better unless you are monitoring potassium, but some folks use it.

What does "pure" mean?

 

[Saltyanimals]

Ahh.. maybe not the most accurate choice of words. This product:

GLA Potassium Nitrate (KNO3) Aquarium Fertilizer - 1lb Bag

Green Leaf Aquariums Potassium Nitrate (KNO3) is a key macronutrient source supporting robust green growth in aquatic plants.

greenleafaquariums.com

It's used in planted tanks which may use potassium more than our reefs. I can monitor and I found the following link on high potassium for reef. Sounds like it may actually be beneficial within some high end range before it becomes a problem.

Effects of high potassium on tank

I just got ICP test results back today. Both my tanks have high potassium and low iodine (so I suspect the salt as I use the same salt on both tanks). What is the effect of high potassium? Does it affect fish at all?

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I'm not convinced one should randomly boost potassium unless it's an experiment. There are also negative reports.

 

[FrostyFrags]

Neonitrate is a liquid, I believe. This is the dry solid.

Use this calculator and procedure and use the entry for potassium nitrate (it is close enough)

Any harm that would come from pre-mixing with distilled water and using over the course of a few months-year?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Any harm that would come from pre-mixing with distilled water and using over the course of a few months-year?

No, that's a fine plan.

 

[hart24601]

There are several acceptable brands. Loudwolf is one:

Sodium Nitrate 1 Pound 2 Bottles

The item for sale is 1 Lb (16 Ounces) of Sodium Nitrate (NaNO3). You get 2 bottles each containing 8 ounces of product. Sodium Nitrate, also known as Chile Salt Petr, is a white powder which is very soluble in water. For Potassium Nitrate, check out our o

www.loudwolf.com

I do wish to caution people to really trust the seller especially off Amazon. I bought 'food grade' sodium nitrate off amazon from a seeming legit seller - everything appeared fantastic and professional. However it clearly was not very pure as it crashed my tank. I mean like every single coral, sps, softies, LPS bailed out of the skeletons. I have used nitrate solutions for years as needed without ever having a bad issue until then. The only reason I ever found out it was the nitrate was my friend borrowed some but needed far less, his tank started to suffer the same effects as mine almost instantly, thankfully his crash was just a few coral, mine was at least 5,000 of various coral.... almost 100% wipeout.

I am sure if Randy says this brand is ok then it is, but I just wish to caution folk to be 100% because the cost was so high losing everything. I almost left the hobby. So while some of these might have higher purity than aquarium branded solutions and be much cheaper, I am just no longer willing to take the risk.