Second Floor Sump Pump

[marcmen]

Hi all, I am looking for some advice on pump selection/plumbing configuration. I am thinking about moving the sump into my basement but I am fairly confident that my COR20 is not going to do the job. I am looking for a minimum of 400 GPH with a guestimated head of 20FT (includes height and elbows etc). If I could, I would like to keep the pump internal but other than the Abyzz (not in the budget,) I cannot find anything I would feel confident would work. So here are my questions:
1. If anyone has a setup similar, what is your configuration? Would you change anything?
2. Could I run more than one COR in a series to overcome the head?
3. Is there a particular internal pump you know of other than the Abyzz that would do the job.
4. if I have to go external what pump would you recommend- Reeflo, Iwaki, Other?

Any advice is welcome.

 

[Super Fly]

what size is the tank and sump?

 

[marcmen]

Read Sea 425XL - 88 display, sump is about 15?

 

[Dburr1014]

Hi all, I am looking for some advice on pump selection/plumbing configuration. I am thinking about moving the sump into my basement but I am fairly confident that my COR20 is not going to do the job. I am looking for a minimum of 400 GPH with a guestimated head of 20FT (includes height and elbows etc). If I could, I would like to keep the pump internal but other than the Abyzz (not in the budget,) I cannot find anything I would feel confident would work. So here are my questions:
1. If anyone has a setup similar, what is your configuration? Would you change anything?
2. Could I run more than one COR in a series to overcome the head?
3. Is there a particular internal pump you know of other than the Abyzz that would do the job.
4. if I have to go external what pump would you recommend- Reeflo, Iwaki, Other?

Any advice is welcome.

Gen-x if they still make them. They come in high head models.but it is external. I have a sicce sdc 9.0.that only is rated at 23'. I have about 360gph @14' running 65%
Are you sure 20' head?

 

[Dburr1014]

Edits^^
I'm on the basement floor, 10 ft to the next level + 4 feet to get over the ridge of the tank about 14 ft head.

 

[jdiefenbaugh]

Blue line, Iwaki, Pan World or Gen X. All external, loud energy hogs, but they will work. I ran a 450 remotely that had over 40' total PVC run, and used an iwaki 100. Make sure you install a check valve, or reverse check valve, it's a lot of water back siphoning into your sump when it shuts down.

 

[SteveMM62Reef]

You are going to have to go with External for that lift. Any internal pump, that will do that lift, is going to put a lot of heat into the water.

 

[marcmen]

Blue line, Iwaki, Pan World or Gen X. All external, loud energy hogs, but they will work. I ran a 450 remotely that had over 40' total PVC run, and used an iwaki 100. Make sure you install a check valve, or reverse check valve, it's a lot of water back siphoning into your sump when it shuts down.

thanks for the advice

 

[marcmen]

Edits^^
I'm on the basement floor, 10 ft to the next level + 4 feet to get over the ridge of the tank about 14 ft head.

I figure the verticle lift is about the same as yours but I added 1ft per 90 and a half for each 45

 

[Dburr1014]

On my return I use a braided hose up until the tank and then I have (3) 90s. 1 to go over the glass (1) to point down, and the other one points out into the water, then a few segments of loc Line.
So figure the same head. If I crank it up I can get more gph. How much more? Idk.
But, 360 gph is really close to where you want to be.
My tank is directly above my sump and I plumbed my pump external. Just for the reasons of heat and my pump stays cool in the basement.

 

[Sean Clark]

I used two Current USA 6011 pumps for a few years for my remote basement sump. 25 feet total run including a 10 foot rise. They worked great and never gave me any problems.

eFlux DC Flow Pumps

Featuring a sealed DC motor and magnetic drive design, eFlux DC pumps provide up to 65% energy savings over traditional AC pumps and are completely controllable. Running virtually silent and transferring minimal heat, for marine and freshwater.

current-usa.com

 

[marcmen]

On my return I use a braided hose up until the tank and then I have (3) 90s. 1 to go over the glass (1) to point down, and the other one points out into the water, then a few segments of loc Line.
So figure the same head. If I crank it up I can get more gph. How much more? Idk.
But, 360 gph is really close to where you want to be.
My tank is directly above my sump and I plumbed my pump external. Just for the reasons of heat and my pump stays cool in the basement.

Thanks for this. maybe I was overthinking this. I guess I can give it a shot with my COR to see how it performs and swap it out if I need to. appreciate the feedback.

 

[jda]

PanWorld, Blueline or Iwaki. Size them right and they won't use too much wattage and they crush head pressure like it is their job.

 

[Ultra Aquatics]

I’m using a Panworld for my basement sump. It’s very reliable, especially compared to the old Reeflo’s I used to run. Unless you want to spend big money on an Abyzz or similar it’s going to have to be a AC external. Mine is using about 230w.

 

[CK00020]

Look at the pump curve on a jebao dcp 20000
Cheap and silent

 

[SteveMM62Reef]

You wouldn’t happen to live in Brooklin Neighborhood in Charles County, MD? I have a pump, that was run for a week. Too noisy for the wife, and moved too much water.

 

[marcmen]

You wouldn’t happen to live in Brooklin Neighborhood in Charles County, MD? I have a pump, that was run for a week. Too noisy for the wife, and moved too much water.

No I don't - I am in Brooklin Ontario - just outside of Toronto

 

[marcmen]

Look at the pump curve on a jebao dcp 20000
Cheap and silent

This is exactly what I am looking for .