Seed Rock has Vermatid - Help

[Seek&Reef]

I just picked up some seed rock from a buddy of mine. It’s sitting in a bucket with water. I got it home and inspected it before deciding whether to qt it or add it to my sump. That rock 100% has Vermatid snails. Is there anyway to get some bacteria without the snails? Maybe a 5 micron sock? I don’t want to risk it if it’s sketchy. Seed rock is pukani and my ghost feeding started yesterday.

 

[Spare time]

I would not use it at all. You will get non-cycling bacteria from corals, snails, fish, etc.


I should make it clear that I wish to wipe vermatids from the face of the earth so I might be biased

 

[HudsonReefer2.0]

+1 find another source.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

To directly answer your question No ..

There's no way to get all of the benefits of that rock with zero risk of transferring the snails.. pukani especially has So many holes and caverns that Vermited snails will be occupying..

If I was dead set on using that rock it would be a year's long process of eradicating it before it went into my main system.

With that being said I already have reminded snails in my main system and frag system and they are not the apocalypse.

I would not choose to bring them in.

 

[Seek&Reef]

Fair enough. Heater and powerhead will go into the bucket till I can return his rock to him. Thank you everyone. I assumed this would’ve be the case

 

[muzikalmatt]

Vermetids suck and they are incredibly prolific. They can grow without light deep in the rock. They can grow in plumbing. They can grow on biomedia. Definitely don't risk it.

 

[Shadows Reef]

Dude I ******* hate Vermetid snails and I have a **** ton of ******* coral in a tank that I want to transfer to my brand new tank but I have to QT every single ******* one of them or sell the ones I can’t QT because I have vermetids on every square inch of my rock and it all started with 1 that I didn’t notice on a clam about 2 years ago so trust me bro don’t even risk getting corals from your buddy without QTing it or your going to to be in the same place as me a year from now

 

[LOVEROCK]

Dude I ******* hate Vermetid snails and I have a **** ton of ******* coral in a tank that I want to transfer to my brand new tank but I have to QT every single ******* one of them or sell the ones I can’t QT because I have vermetids on every square inch of my rock and it all started with 1 that I didn’t notice on a clam about 2 years ago so trust me bro don’t even risk getting corals from your buddy without QTing it or your going to to be in the same place as me a year from now

Impressive

 

[Aiptaisia anemone]

Dude I ******* hate Vermetid snails and I have a **** ton of ******* coral in a tank that I want to transfer to my brand new tank but I have to QT every single ******* one of them or sell the ones I can’t QT because I have vermetids on every square inch of my rock and it all started with 1 that I didn’t notice on a clam about 2 years ago so trust me bro don’t even risk getting corals from your buddy without QTing it or your going to to be in the same place as me a year from now

Wow thats gross

 

[areefer01]

Dude I ******* hate Vermetid snails and I have a **** ton of ******* coral in a tank that I want to transfer to my brand new tank but I have to QT every single ******* one of them or sell the ones I can’t QT because I have vermetids on every square inch of my rock and it all started with 1 that I didn’t notice on a clam about 2 years ago so trust me bro don’t even risk getting corals from your buddy without QTing it or your going to to be in the same place as me a year from now

Know this song and dance all too well. Only thing we can do is nuke it upon first site. Honestly if we don't deal with the issue right then and there this is what happens. And the really only "sure fire" way of removing them is via manual removal once they are established.

Don't buy into the hype of bumble bee snails, crabs, or some wrasses (although they may swoop in and eat pieces of worms that you destroyed) because all searches and research return us to no natural predators in home aquaria. I do have one side that is more clear that a urchin hangs out on but I don't think it is responsible for managing nor have I read any papers on it.

Really anytime you see one nuke it from space. Don't pass go. Don't get an adult beverage. Nuke it.

 

[ApoIsland]

Dude I ******* hate Vermetid snails and I have a **** ton of ******* coral in a tank that I want to transfer to my brand new tank but I have to QT every single ******* one of them or sell the ones I can’t QT because I have vermetids on every square inch of my rock and it all started with 1 that I didn’t notice on a clam about 2 years ago so trust me bro don’t even risk getting corals from your buddy without QTing it or your going to to be in the same place as me a year from now

Holy smoke. I think some bumblebee snails should be your next purchase

 

[vetteguy53081]

Looks more like tube worms but way too many

 

[FrontRangeReefer]

YMMV but bumblebee snails did the trick for me. I had a relatively minor infestation and they are completely gone. That being said, it would have been ideal if they were never introduced in the first place. I personally would advise you to look elsewhere for rock.

 

[Shadows Reef]

Know this song and dance all too well. Only thing we can do is nuke it upon first site. Honestly if we don't deal with the issue right then and there this is what happens. And the really only "sure fire" way of removing them is via manual removal once they are established.

Don't buy into the hype of bumble bee snails, crabs, or some wrasses (although they may swoop in and eat pieces of worms that you destroyed) because all searches and research return us to no natural predators in home aquaria. I do have one side that is more clear that a urchin hangs out on but I don't think it is responsible for managing nor have I read any papers on it.

Really anytime you see one nuke it from space. Don't pass go. Don't get an adult beverage. Nuke it.

So true! for me I didn’t care that much I was going to take it off the clam “then next time I put my hands in the tank”
And I I think it was a week later I removed it then I saw two more weeks later pop up in the tank and I kept at it for a good while and even got a **** ton of bumblebee snails and clearly that worked , but my new tank I’m going to QT every coral to prevent that exact pest.

here’s my new tank I’m almost finished with. Not going to let any pest like that come into my life again,.

 

[Shadows Reef]

Holy smoke. I think some bumblebee snails should be your next purchase

if only they worked I got 20 of them and they seem to work at first but eventually they lost their appetite for vermetid I guess idk had more and more verms grow and the bumblebee died off at first I was replacing them but gave up as I didn’t really see them doing anything.

 

[workhz]

That’s a lot of snails. I have some vermatid but they seem to not be as prolific and just get bigger vs multiplying. Not even sure how I got them.

 

[Seek&Reef]

Thanks everyone. So my plan is to use some kp aquatics Rock in the future but quarantine it with lights, temp, flow still. Then add it once I’m happy with it. What would be a good option to seed until then? I could care less for bottle bac. I’m in no rush, I want everything ready before I add fish. I’m currently saving for T5 lights, icecap gyres, coral qt lights, then kp Rock, and finally fish lol. So we’re talking months before kp rock and fish. Just fed the tank 3 pinches of ground up pellets, a few oz of old phyto, and a block of frozen mysis yesterday.

 

[Seek&Reef]

Tank as it sits. I do have some Jebao powerheads and return pump for flow right now.

 

[Ribo15]

Love the scape!

 

[Seek&Reef]

Love the scape!

Thanks. It was a lot of work lol