Should I Vacuum My Deep Sandbed?

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I'm not sure where I read or who told me this, but I was under the impression that you shouldn't stir your Sandbed. Yesterday I was watching the latest BRS Video and they were showing how to vacuum your sandbed. My question is should I have been vacuuming my Sandbed all this time? Could this be my nitrate problem? I currently have ~4 inch sandbed. If I have been negligent in this maintenance area how should I go about correcting it? I'm assuming I should do a small section every week until I get all of it?

Thanks for any advice.
 
4" sandbed I would vacuum. I had one years ago that was 3-4" and was shocked at the gunk I vacuumed out one day. A true "deep" sandbed shouldn't be disturbed but your depth is a prime candidate for a vacuum. Try it during your next water change and see what comes out. If it's clean don't worry about it. If you get black stinky water you may want to vacuum each water change. I did with mine and ended up going barebottom eventually.
 
Clean only small portions at a time. You can shock your tank if you take out too much. Depending on how dirty it is, I would clean 4" blocks every week starting at the corners. Use a siphon and have the option to control the intake with a valve. This way you can make sure not to suck up sand.
 
4" sandbed I would vacuum. I had one years ago that was 3-4" and was shocked at the gunk I vacuumed out one day. A true "deep" sandbed shouldn't be disturbed but your depth is a prime candidate for a vacuum. Try it during your next water change and see what comes out. If it's clean don't worry about it. If you get black stinky water you may want to vacuum each water change. I did with mine and ended up going barebottom eventually.

Thank you. I can see gunk in it where it is against the glass. See the photo:

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Clean only small portions at a time. You can shock your tank if you take out too much. Depending on how dirty it is, I would clean 4" blocks every week starting at the corners. Use a siphon and have the option to control the intake with a valve. This way you can make sure not to suck up sand.

Thank you. Should I be worried about my cucumber having enough food?
 
I wouldn't and haven't my cuc does keep the top clean. Below that is a natural biological filter and cleaning it will kill the bacteria and really throw your tank off.
 
Be careful!! You can do it, just don't stir the junk into the water. I personally wouldn't, but it's your tank.
 
I wouldn't and haven't my cuc does keep the top clean. Below that is a natural biological filter and cleaning it will kill the bacteria and really throw your tank off.
I agree. He could also get a sand sifting gobie and/ or perhaps bristle star fish. I have both in the main display and they do great at stiring up the sand.
 
My sand sifting Goby lives for rearranging my sand.... Also have some brittle stars too and honestly no issues
 
My sand sifting Goby lives for rearranging my sand.... Also have some brittle stars too and honestly no issues

I had a dragon goby, but he died after about two years. He did a great job with the top half inch of the sandbed, but as you can see from my photo the bottom is not clean. I was curious about it because the BRS video this week vacuumed theirs.
 
I wouldn't change it. I have a white sand sifting goby and he too loves rearranging the sand. Every time I turn around he has a new hole or den.
 
Oh man, two for it and two against it. :(

This isn't what I expected.

You can make the choice for yourself. Next water change do a small section and see/smell what comes out. If you want to leave that in your tank then don't vacuum. If you decide its nasty enough you don't want it in your tank then start vacuuming as you do water changes.
 
My tank has a 3-4" deep sand bed all around and I gravel vac every time I do a water change which is roughly every month. I only do the water changes to help replenish key elements that I do not particularly dose.

When you gravel vac you just have to pay attention to the way you do it. If you "stir" the sand bed, you will just send all the toxic dust cloud to go in your tank.

So just stop the flow in your tank and do small sections at a time. I gravel all of my tank besides under the rock work. Just take your time and use a small hose so you can easily control the flow. Your freshly graveled areas should look like little mounds. Its totally save if you do it this way.

The bad way is if you siphon and bulldoze the sand while you are doing it. Just stay vertical in each small section and you will be fine.

As for the killing the beneficial bacteria. Sure, you may kill a few hear and there but it won't be enough to hurt your tank.

As for the Diamond Goby idea, yes I have one too. The problem with the goby and if you never gravel vac'ed your sand is he will stir up the dirty sand and your tank can become cloudy for a few hours. My goby caught me slipping and he did this once and caused a nasty cyano outbreak that I am still battling.

Last ramble, when you do water changes, its good to get dirty water out and replenish it with clean water. Hence the gravel vac. If you just take out clean water and replace it with clean water, its good for elements but not necessarily getting rid of the gunk.

Of course having a real deep sand bed that works and functions is ideal, but in our range of 3-4" that is not ideal.
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I have a RSM 130 and vacuum sections of my sand bed that are against the glass with a gravel vacuum with each water change. I control the flow by kinking the hose at the top to ensure that the junk doesn't end up in the water. It works really well and doesn't throw off my tank at all.

I vacuum by the glass only and actually divide my tank into 4 sections and vaccuum one section per water change. My 5th water change I clean the back chamber. Perfect routine for my tank for now at least.

I also have Nassarius Snails (some small and some large) and an orange lipped conch that takes care of the rest.
 
I had one for 17 years and never touched it. I did however add this and this to keep it healthy. I also had Cerith snails, Nasarius Vibrex snails, and a couple Conch's to keep the upper part loose. I would suggest you read Dr. Shimeks article that was linked in an earlier post, you should avoid certain animals that will prey on the microfauna that keep it healthy.
 

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