sick clownfish help

[thefez510]

hey guys, i just received this 2 percula clown last night that i ordered and the small clownfish looks perfectly fine however the medium size clown fish doesn't look too good i was wondering if anybody can ID the issue im not sure if its velvet brookynella or ich if some one can help me figure it out and what treatment i should do is greatly appreciated thank you in advance guys.

 

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Really hard to tell from the pictures...

 

[Sharkbait19]

Does it just look off or is behaving weird too - hard to guess from the pic. Try adding a video (through YouTube).
It could be stress from acclimation - but brook is also a possibility with the washed out colors.

 

[nuxx Verified Sponsor]

Does it just look off or is behaving weird too - hard to guess from the pic. Try adding a video (through YouTube).
It could be stress from acclimation - but brook is also a possibility with the washed out colors.

Yeah first week behavior can be very strange, even with coloration.

Are their visible marks on the scales?

 

[thefez510]

Does it just look off or is behaving weird too - hard to guess from the pic. Try adding a video (through YouTube).
It could be stress from acclimation - but brook is also a possibility with the washed out colors.

sorry about that heres a video and the fish looks pale and if you looks closely at the video it looks like theres some small white spots on the fish

 

[thefez510]

Really hard to tell from the pictures...

heres a video sorry about that

 

[Sharkbait19]

I don’t see any distinct spots that look like ich - breathing rate could indicate brook or velvet though.
#fishmedic

 

[thefez510]

I don’t see any distinct spots that look like ich - breathing rate could indicate brook or velvet though.
#fishmedic

ok thank you what is the best thing i can do to fight off brook or velvet i do have seachem cupramine can i used that to fight off those things.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Both velvet and ich can be treated using copper products like cupramine (though copper power or coppersafe are safer).
Brook requires formalin to treat.
Both must be done in a separate quarantine tank (all fish need to be treated) and the tank needs to remain fishless for a set amount of time (depends on the disease).

 

[thefez510]

Both velvet and ich can be treated using copper products like cupramine (though copper power or coppersafe are safer).
Brook requires formalin to treat.
Both must be done in a separate quarantine tank (all fish need to be treated) and the tank needs to remain fishless for a set amount of time (depends on the disease).

what brand of formalin would you recommend sorry for all the questions just want to make sure i do this right thank you.

 

[Sharkbait19]

It’s pretty hard to come by - ruby reef pro is commonly used, but it contains acriflavin now, no idea if it still works as well.
You can buy formalin straight off of some vendors, I know dr. Reef is one.

 

[Idech]

What’s all the stuff floating around in the tank ? Did you just feed ?

 

[thefez510]

What’s all the stuff floating around in the tank ? Did you just feed ?

yes i just tried to feed them they didnt eat though which is understable since i just got them yesterday and plus is the medium size one was sick i wasnt surprise

 

[threebuoys]

Pictures under white lighting would be easier to help distinguish fish from other artifacts. Some algae on the glass is blurring the images. Difficult to determine if the colors are washed out because of the blue lights and algae or due to mucus/slime that accompanies parasitic infection.

 

[thefez510]

It’s pretty hard to come by - ruby reef pro is commonly used, but it contains acriflavin now, no idea if it still works as well.
You can buy formalin straight off of some vendors, I know dr. Reef is one.

got it thank you i really appreciate it

 

[thefez510]

Pictures under white lighting would be easier to help distinguish fish from other artifacts. Some algae on the glass is blurring the images. Difficult to determine if the colors are washed out because of the blue lights and algae or due to mucus/slime that accompanies parasitic infection.

i actually have a video i posted it earlier

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

i actually have a video i posted it earlier

You said you "received" the fish last night. That implies they were shipped to you, so the fish arrived to you less than 24 hours ago? This may be acclimation stress, or ammonia burn.

If they were shipped to you and you didn't get them until last night, that means they were in the bags around 30 to 36 hours, that's a long time.

Jay

 

[thefez510]

You said you "received" the fish last night. That implies they were shipped to you, so the fish arrived to you less than 24 hours ago? This may be acclimation stress, or ammonia burn.

If they were shipped to you and you didn't get them until last night, that means they were in the bags around 30 to 36 hours, that's a long time.

Jay

yes sir that sounds about right i hope your right its just acclemation stress ive never seen acclemation stress before so i wasnt sure i actually have an updated video as well if you dont mind what you think thank you

 

[thefez510]

It’s pretty hard to come by - ruby reef pro is commonly used, but it contains acriflavin now, no idea if it still works as well.
You can buy formalin straight off of some vendors, I know dr. Reef is one.

i have an updated video i was wondering what do you think is it velvet or brook or just acclemation burns?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

i have an updated video i was wondering what do you think is it velvet or brook or just acclemation burns?

So - the trouble is that shipping damage and Brooklynella look really similar without using a microscope. Brook takes a few days to get started though, so my thought is, if you received a fish with advanced Brook, it was shipped to you like that. Good dealers won’t ship obviously ill fish….but some might.
Have you tried feeding them yet?
Jay