Sick Pyramid Butterfly

[Qasimja]

I got 2x pyramid butterfly fish almost a month ago they had been doing fine eating great til this morning now this 1 is acting weird swimming weird and not wanting to eat its almost as if he has trouble staying afloat none of the other fish are acting any differently and they all ate except him i have a cycled QT i can put him in what should i do? last thing i added to the tank was snails and 2 cleaner shrimp 8-10 days ago

tanks been up for 4 months other inhabitants are a tomato clown,one spot foxface,coral beauty angelfish, lyretail anthias, and 2 pyramid butterfly fish
ammonia 0.0
nitrite 0.0
nitrate 5
temp 77
ph 8.2

 

[Flippers4pups]

Looks like velvet or Ich to me. Is it constantly swimming into flow?

#reefsquad

 

[Qasimja]

Looks like velvet or Ich to me. Is it constantly swimming into flow?

#reefsquad

no hes not hes mostly swimming in the middle of the tank

 

[Qasimja]

well attempting to swim in the middle hes having trouble swimming like he normally does it looks like

 

[Flippers4pups]

Did you quarantine your fish before adding to the DT?

 

[Qasimja]

Did you quarantine your fish before adding to the DT?

not these last pyramid butterflyfish they were added about a month ago the supplier i got them from recommended to me not to QT as it stresses them so i didnt

 

[C. Eymann]

Looks like Oodinium to me unfortunately

Anyway you can remove? do you have a QT setup?

 

[Sailfin11]

Did you QT when you originally bought him? Right now I wouldn't move him to a QT. He seems really thin and probably would be even more stressed by the move. What are you feeding and has he been eating well since you got him? I hope he pulls through!

 

[Halal Hotdog]

From the video it looks like he is swimming into flow, and I believe I see a fine dusting on his face. That's indicative of velvet. He also looks a bit thin. I would pull him, do a freshwater dip, and medicated QT. Even though other fish aren't showing symptoms they will need to be treated as well. Unfortunately the more sensitive fish typically need medicated QT more so than hardy fish.

 

[Qasimja]

Looks like Oodinium to me unfortunately

Anyway you can remove? do you have a QT setup?

yes i have a cycled QT i keep running but if its velvet why is he the only fish acting this way? and yes both of them eat like pigs thats the reason today i noticed something wasnt right because he didnt eat

 

[Flippers4pups]

yes i have a cycled QT i keep running but if its velvet why is he the only fish acting this way? and yes both of them eat like pigs thats the reason today i noticed something wasnt right because he didnt eat

It hasn't spread or not visible on the other fish.

 

[C. Eymann]

yes i have a cycled QT i keep running but if its velvet why is he the only fish acting this way? and yes both of them eat like pigs thats the reason today i noticed something wasnt right because he didnt eat

Established fish in the aquarium arent going through a period of stress like this new addition is, their going to be more resilient than a fish that is in transition and stressed, immune function possibly compromised etc etc

That doesn't mean other fish are safe, Oodinium is very virulent and can make fish succumb pretty rapidly.

 

[Qasimja]

i should treat the QT with copper power right? i can get some from a lfs in the next hour

 

[Flippers4pups]

i should treat the QT with copper power right? i can get some from a lfs in the next hour

Are you FOLWR? no coral?

 

[Halal Hotdog]

Copper can work, I prefer chloroquine phosphate but is hard to acquire. I would freshwater dip before adding to QT. That will kill many parasites and hopefully the fish will start eating again.

 

[Qasimja]

Are you FOLWR? no coral?

no coral yet but many inverts

 

[C. Eymann]

Copper can work, I prefer chloroquine phosphate but is hard to acquire. I would freshwater dip before adding to QT. That will kill many parasites and hopefully the fish will start eating again.

^^^this,
Also make sure you get a copper test kit so you dont overshoot. Butterfly's are one of the fish groups fairly copper sensitive if I remember correctly.

 

[Qasimja]

freshwater dipping the fish now

 

[Flippers4pups]

^^^this,
Also make sure you get a copper test kit so you dont overshoot. Butterfly's are one of the fish groups fairly copper sensitive if I remember correctly.

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[Flippers4pups]

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