Cleo642
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I only said it causes it's brown boat rock. No need to get defensive or anything.
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Cleo642
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I've discussed love rock on several occasions. In fact my first post on this was natural live rock vs. Eco live rock. Walt Smith himself actually commented on that tread. Even he says boat rock, because they will collect rock in Fiji or location, and put it in a boat where it sits for weeks. Ask the life in the rock dies off, life algae and hitchhikers, and their become brown boat rock.
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Reef creation in buffalo NY was a amazing store that's where I got my totally purple Live rock. I think I will just pay extra for rock that has coraline algae on it as it looks way better.
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but what about the brown hair algae ? and the fish he is selling? the fish seem really stressted with no place to hide.
PaulKreider
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I've scored some of my best "hidden brown gems" in poorly kept LFS's, that be said, be extra cautious.
If you are worried, here's some thing you can do to help prevent a disaster
-Ask to see fish fed before buying
-Watch a potential new fish for a while, don't buy it on the first visit, check back a week later and see how it's doing.
-DIP EVERYTHING
-Take your time when inspecting corals before purchasing, never feel rushed into buying something
-Take any advise with a grain of salt, especially if it sounds a tad bit off.
-Use your smart phone to your advantage and look up anything you aren't sure about (maybe even negotiate a lower price)
Hope this helps, I've come across my fair share of spooky LFS's, but don't go in aggressive, always be courteous, even if you know some information may be a bit wacky!
If you are worried, here's some thing you can do to help prevent a disaster
-Ask to see fish fed before buying
-Watch a potential new fish for a while, don't buy it on the first visit, check back a week later and see how it's doing.
-DIP EVERYTHING
-Take your time when inspecting corals before purchasing, never feel rushed into buying something
-Take any advise with a grain of salt, especially if it sounds a tad bit off.
-Use your smart phone to your advantage and look up anything you aren't sure about (maybe even negotiate a lower price)
Hope this helps, I've come across my fair share of spooky LFS's, but don't go in aggressive, always be courteous, even if you know some information may be a bit wacky!
Cleo642
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There is another in found while browsing the Internet, I will but from this place most likely cause I don't wanna wait at the airport for air freights. It's called live rock n reef. It's in florida. They all kinds of live rock for sale, Fiji ultra, tonga, Buna.
StevenBell
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I'l worked a couple of places before starting my own.I would monitor for a bit before buying.Even an LFS can have an algae spike from time to time.After a month-which is more than enough time to at least see recession, I would go with lack of husbandry.Just one man's opinion
TheEngineer
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I live in that area. What store are you talking about? The only one I can think of close to there is ASR and he's got great stuff.
You can check out Delaware Premium Aquatics. Usually pretty nice fish, but I'd skip them for coral.
You can check out Delaware Premium Aquatics. Usually pretty nice fish, but I'd skip them for coral.
Cleo642
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An awesome man's opinion. Lol
Than simply do not give them your business, it's the best way to procure change.
Well put, yeah!!!
I once purchased a 10 dollar frag of Red Planet that grew into a spectacular colony that I enjoyed for years. The store had many many issues and still does but the guy has a heart of gold.
It's a buyer beware world out there, you have to be an educated consumers and a respectful one.
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Delware premium aquatics is a hour from me so kinda far and I would have to go thru philly. but I guess I could go there to just get live rock because I'm not ordering live rock online I will pay the extra time and money to find and hand pick every rock.
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It comes up as a research center?
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TheEngineer
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Yeah, that's them. I don't know why he put research in the name.
Breadman03
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There's also Something Fishy in Northampton, PA, just outside of Allentown. They have consistently been the nicest store within my day trip range. I'm up in the Poconos.
jerseypete
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Well on the live rock. That's how I started my tank 100 lbs in a rubbermaid. Totally covered. No light. Kept it that way ( dosing ammonia ) for 6 months. With a small powerhead. Only kept it that long cause tank wasn't ready. But fully stocked my tank the first week. Never had a problem.
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Well I own a fish store and not sticking up for this guy since we spend a lot of time keeping tanks clean and livestock healthy.
However live rock most of the time comes in without Coraline and doesn't sit in out rock tank long enough the get Coraline. Most wholesalers are getting and sending rock out by truck. Only time I see good Coraline if it's from a tank breakdown and we resell it. Btw here in florida LR is 3.99lb for Fiji and 5.99 for Haiti
However live rock most of the time comes in without Coraline and doesn't sit in out rock tank long enough the get Coraline. Most wholesalers are getting and sending rock out by truck. Only time I see good Coraline if it's from a tank breakdown and we resell it. Btw here in florida LR is 3.99lb for Fiji and 5.99 for Haiti
I had to cure some rock for a new system I had. The cured live rock is simply rock that is soaking with flow around it in usually fresh to get rid of the phosphates. My understanding for the cured rock is simply to drain all phosphates so as they do not leach into the actual system.
Now wanting to make it live rock is different. This requires you to actually build up the rock with beneficial bacteria. Similarly to what we do when we cycle the tank. Water, flow, temp and some seed. No light!
Using cured rock in a tank will not add the bacteria needed, but will keep from adding the phosphates or any other pests. This is what my understanding is, so maybe it is only cured rock. However the overgrowth of algae is not a good sign. Live rock in stores rarely has coraline on it since many do not give it light. Some rocks are made with pigments to look like coralline, so watch that too. Unless you like that look. It is a preference.
I tend to use dry rock, cure myself, make live myself. Then I know what I am getting.
Now wanting to make it live rock is different. This requires you to actually build up the rock with beneficial bacteria. Similarly to what we do when we cycle the tank. Water, flow, temp and some seed. No light!
Using cured rock in a tank will not add the bacteria needed, but will keep from adding the phosphates or any other pests. This is what my understanding is, so maybe it is only cured rock. However the overgrowth of algae is not a good sign. Live rock in stores rarely has coraline on it since many do not give it light. Some rocks are made with pigments to look like coralline, so watch that too. Unless you like that look. It is a preference.
I tend to use dry rock, cure myself, make live myself. Then I know what I am getting.
