Skimmer delay?

drtrash · Sep 11, 2018

does the standard program (WiFi version) factory default have a restart delay for skimmer when power goes out? The outlet had time listed for skimmer plug

Fishfinder · Sep 12, 2018

Just add a defer statement.

Lasse · Sep 12, 2018

With the GHL profilux you can have a delay on every outlet even when you just lost the contact with the controller. But you have to set it. It is not in the factory derault

Sincerely Lasse

drtrash · Sep 12, 2018

New to apex, not sure what or how to add defer

ScooterV · Sep 12, 2018

On the Apex add this to the end of the program for the outlet:

Defer 005:00 Then ON

That would defer for 5 minutes.

drtrash · Sep 12, 2018

Where does the "on" go, fallback has off should it be "on"? The factory default has 5:00 as a defer. Where or how do you add language for program, advanced area?

ScooterV · Sep 12, 2018

Yes, advanced. You can post all of it here and anyone wandering by can check it. As a crazy example, here is mine:

Fallback OFF
Set pSkimOn
If Output vFeed = ON Then OFF
If Output Skim_Full = ON Then OFF
If FeedA 000 Then OFF
If FeedB 000 Then OFF
If FeedC 000 Then OFF
If FeedD 000 Then OFF
If Output Return_Pump = OFF Then OFF
Defer 005:00 Then ON

Fishfinder · Sep 12, 2018

There is a ton of programming the apex can do. I would download the user manual. It'll take days to read. Well worth it.

But setback off
Set on
Feed a off
Defer 05:00 then on

That's mine

drtrash · Sep 12, 2018

I am assuming the return pump needs to be plugged into apex for this too work? The advice i got in the begining for safety was to put main pump on another surge protector just incase controller goes down, was that not solid advice?

Fishfinder · Sep 12, 2018

Not solid advice. The apex programming "fallback" is used for if the apex goes down. Plug everything into the apex

Fishfinder · Sep 12, 2018

If apex does down your fallback setting will control any device plugged in

ScooterV · Sep 13, 2018

What return pump do you have? If it's a DC pump with a 10v variable control the power itself can be plugged in to another power strip and save an energy bar outlet.

Drauka99 · Sep 13, 2018

I have the defer statement on my skimmer. Mine is so when I do a water change it keeps the skimmer off for 5 minutes after I am done with the water change to allow the sump level to stabilize. BUT the code to do this (all the statements above the defer command) are very tank specific. The best advice is to add the defer command in the format shown "Defer 05:00 then on" to the last line of the Skimmer programming, you will need to change to Advanced to do this. The 5 in this case is 5 minutes, you may need to adjust this number for your particular needs as well.

Fishfinder · Sep 13, 2018

ScooterV said:
What return pump do you have? If it's a DC pump with a 10v variable control the power itself can be plugged in to another power strip and save an energy bar outlet.

If you do that then the return pump can't be remotely controlled by the apex. For things like feeding, maintenance, of ald monitor.

Drauka99 · Sep 13, 2018

you can, the code would just be in the variable speed code for the port the return is using

ScooterV · Sep 13, 2018

Fishfinder said:
If you do that then the return pump can't be remotely controlled by the apex. For things like feeding, maintenance, of ald monitor.

It's controlled with the 10v variable input from the Apex.

Fishfinder · Sep 13, 2018

ScooterV said:
It's controlled with the 10v variable input from the Apex.

Ah yes! Good stuff. Mine isn't 1-10v controllable, so it basically runs as an AC pump

Greybeard · Sep 13, 2018

This works...

Fallback ON
Set ON
If SUMP_Hi CLOSED Then OFF
If Power Apex Off 010 Then OFF

The SUMP_Hi line refers to a high level sensor in my sump. Very handy, but probably not applicable to your system.

The Power Apex line works for me. Don't know what the difference is between that and the defer statement recommended above.