skimmers and bio loads

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Most skimmers are rated by their capacity in gallons while some show the increase as bio load goes down and vice versa. But how do you determine what your bioload is. for instance I have:

A pair a false percs (female 2 inches)
1 foxface rabbitfish (3 inches)
1 Sailfin Tang (2 1/2)
1 Watchmans goby ( 3)
1 firefish goby(aka dartfish)
1 GBTA

This is all housed in a 90 Gallon with a 29 gallon sump. And Will all be moving to a 150 Tall in a couple weeks ( tank out for drilling now) I'd say my bio load is pretty low but since this is my first reef (running 2 yrs) I dont really know. Also Ive heard that corals and clean up crew dont count as they take away bio load. true/ false?
 
IMO anything that eats and poops inceases bioload. I would say you have a med bioload maybe med/heavy. IMO a small bio would be 1-3 fish is a 90 and a heavy would 10+ but it really depends on the size of the fish
 
I'd call that a low/med bioload for your 90, and certainly low for the 150. The only fish that really stands out, to me, as a messy eater/pooper is the tang.

What skimmer are you running on the 90, and what are you looking at for the new 150?
 
Im running a current fission 105 now which (believe it or not) skims pretty well but needs the cup cleaned almost daily as the neck is only about an 1 inch in dia. and gets bogged up quick. I like the swc 160 cone alot and is on the top of the list at this point.
 
A little side note on the 150. My wife bought it yesterday with an aquatic life fixture. 2 x150 mh 2x54 t5 and moonlightlight with built in timer. Happy valentines day to me! and boy oh boy do I owe........LOL
 
A little side note on the 150. My wife bought it yesterday with an aquatic life fixture. 2 x150 mh 2x54 t5 and moonlightlight with built in timer. Happy valentines day to me! and boy oh boy do I owe........LOL


What an awesome gift. Looks like your wife enjoys the hobby like mine. It makes life much easier. :)
 
Awesome, I got a card lol. hate to disappoint (just dont read until tomorrow) but I would use atleast 250w MH on that deep of a tank
 
Awesome, I got a card lol. hate to disappoint (just dont read until tomorrow) but I would use atleast 250w MH on that deep of a tank
Yeah I was wondering that too, but she got a great deal. lfs sold it 2 weeks ago and the buyer said it made too much heat for his liking and traded it for an all t5 fixture. 2 weeks old at 1/2 price, that was too good to pass up. It does have a bit of a spot light effect on my 90 which should disapate on the 150...so we'll see I guess.
 
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here is a well documented article about the truth behind skimming and how effective it is...30% IS ALL YOU GET!!!!!
enjoy....


Purifying aquarium water with a protein skimmer represents one of the major strategies for maintaining water quality. This singular piece of equipment can often constitute the major set-up capital expense after the tank itself. With its presumably pivotal role in aquarium husbandry and its high price tag, it is no surprise that skimmer manufacturers strive to outdo one another with their exhortations and grandiose claims. For example, what aquarist can resist statements like:

Precision Marine:

"These skimmers will outperform anything in their class."

"Our fractionators strip organics from the system quickly due to the high flow rates they are designed to operate."

AETech (ETSS):

"This provides certain unique operational properties set it apart from the rest of the ETSS line. Giving your tank gentle but highly effective waste removal that will never over skim your aquarium. It creates the finest bubble size that totally fills the skimmer body with so much air that it turns the water to a solid milk color. The countercurrent action allows for far greater air water contact time and reduces the amount of wet foaming to a minimum."

Euroreef:

"Custom modified pumps, "Euro-AirTM" venturis, and "Euro-WheelTM" pinwheel style impellers are combined to create that incredible volume of micro bubbles that provide the immense surface area resulting in unrivaled quick removal or organics resulting in a healthy aquarium."

"The efficiency achieved with this design translates into higher performance at a lower operating cost to you!"

These statements, which are representative and certainly not unique amongst skimmer manufacturers, raise a series of questions:

* What is the factual basis for these claims?
* How do the skimmer manufacturers assay skimmer "performance"?
* Are there any metrics at all available to quantify skimmer performance?
* What does the concept of performance even mean when discussing skimmers?

In the article to follow, we present a new approach to addressing these questions. We will introduce concrete definitions for skimmer performance that focus on both the rate of organic contaminant removal and the extent of organic contaminant removal from saltwater. We then will introduce an experimental procedure, based on a model system, to measure these performance metrics for four representative skimmers. Finally, we will show how this model system accurately replicates skimmer performance with authentic aquarium water. We hope that these advances will prove valuable in the hands of forward thinking skimmer designers by providing the means to optimize skimmer performance as a function of both design variables and operational variables. Thus, it actually might be possible to provide, for the first time, unequivocal evidence in support of the claims of "best" so indiscriminately dispensed today.
full article can found here lot's of reading.....thats just the intro...
Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine - Feature Article: The Development of a Method for the Quantitative Evaluation of Protein Skimmer Performance
 
I too am having problems with under skimming.. I was also looking at the swc 160.. it's small and will fit into my sump compartment nicely.. however i was looking at some of the reef octopus supreme models like the 2000xp external and i kinda liked that..
 
Id say corals and clean up are bioload for sure... all I have are lps and snail/emerald crabs. I feed a huge chunk of rods food to them every other nite. My clean up crew eats tons of algae and in my low flow tank I see poops everywhere from them. I have no fish or anything else in my tank. If bioload is stuff that eats, corals and clean up crew counts. Just because most people don't directly feed their corals don't mean they don't like to eat. My tank gets real dirty without my protein skimmer on. These groups need to be factored into your protein skimmer choice imo
 

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