So why do you do when...

[jasonamyers]

you see

I’ve tried vibrant, manual cleaning, 3day black outs and Dr Tim’s I’ll get a fresh set of water test results tomorrow (out of stuff for nitrate). This tank I put some “seed” coraline in from one of those bottles as an experiment...

I don’t wanna give up, don’t want to start over. I wanna fight!

 

[brandon429]

If that's a nano vs large tank, so many better options

How many gallons

 

[jasonamyers]

It’s a Red Sea reefer 250 so... 64 gallons

 

[cracker]

I can't really advice I have the same stuff but green. Keep up the Good fight !

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

What’s your no3 and Po4?
Are either bottomed out?

Yes , it’s really impossible to know what it is without a a microscope , and somtimes even then it’s harded than you may think.

If the nutrients aren’t bottomed out , some things that have worked are ,
Total scrub n peroxide , peroxide dosing , ozone , uv sterilizer, (all manual removal methods ) , good bacteria treatments , increase in bio diversity to include Fiji mud , Garf Grunge etc for macro bio diversity.

If you have a phosphate blocs due to zero Po4 , Po4 dosing in combination with the above. The nitrifying bacteria die off as they need Po4. So you have to feed them and increase the population again

 

[dwest]

you see

I’ve tried vibrant, manual cleaning, 3day black outs and Dr Tim’s I’ll get a fresh set of water test results tomorrow (out of stuff for nitrate). This tank I put some “seed” coraline in from one of those bottles as an experiment...

I don’t wanna give up, don’t want to start over. I wanna fight!

Do you know what is is? Cyano? Dinos?

 

[jasonamyers]

Do you know what is is? Cyano? Dinos?

Unsure

 

[dwest]

Unsure

You might be able to ID with a peroxide test, which you can search for. My results were not conclusive. I bought the $12 microscope mentioned in mcarroll’s dino thread and confirmed dinos.

 

[jasonamyers]

What’s your no3 and Po4?

NO3 is at 0 on a Red Sea Nitrate Pro Test
PO4 is at 0.04 according to a Hanna Phosphorus checker
Alk is at 8.1 according to a Hanna Alkalinity dKh Checker

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

NO3 is at 0 on a Red Sea Nitrate Pro Test
PO4 is at 0.04 according to a Hanna Phosphorus checker
Alk is at 8.1 according to a Hanna Alkalinity dKh Checker

Interesting.

Do check out this thread.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dinoflagellates-–-are-you-tired-of-battling-altogether.293318/

I hope it helps as bit more thorough guide.
Ime , the above I posted has helped even without a positive I’d.
Sever cases though have required a bit more exacting nutrient treatment.

 

[MTBake]

Interesting.

Do check out this thread.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dinoflagellates-–-are-you-tired-of-battling-altogether.293318/

I hope it helps as bit more thorough guide.
Ime , the above I posted has helped even without a positive I’d.
Sever cases though have required a bit more exacting nutrient treatment.

Totally agree. Great thread to read based on what I see.

 

[reefisland]

you see

I’ve tried vibrant, manual cleaning, 3day black outs and Dr Tim’s I’ll get a fresh set of water test results tomorrow (out of stuff for nitrate). This tank I put some “seed” coraline in from one of those bottles as an experiment...

I don’t wanna give up, don’t want to start over. I wanna fight!

Hi, its dyno out break, I just got over a 4 month fight after being on vacation and having a 4 day power outage which stressed my corals to where they released toxins into the water and killed some of my prize fish and led to ammonia spike which caused a dyno nightmare, cheto in the sump died off and down hill from there... said and done, now it was time to put the gloves on and fight. Definitely siphon out the dyno, keep the light off in the tank to prevent growth, if you have fish or coral,lights on only for feeding. If you have a sump , refresh the chatoe,purchase biospira and start to dose fresh bacteria, let your tank cycle out and the dyno should die off... do small water changes just to siphon the dyno other wise a Turkey baster will do.. make sure there is nothing in your Dt that may have died cause spikes..good luck..and the forum posted on your progress

 

[jasonamyers]

I just wanted to drop a note of thanks to you all and share the results of your help and the links you shared.

Lots of water changes, sand and rock cleaning, and bacteria replacements. Thank you all again!

 

[brandon429]

Jason did I miss this update

That after pic is shocking

Did you rip clean that setup, the ole manual lawnmower I'm taking back the entire tank by six pm technique

The sand and rocks look detail cleaned, and skip cycle reassembled. Can you detail your cleaning i want to link this to our sand rinse thread. Curious what ratio of turnaround was physical cleaning and what portion was doser, looks 80/20 to me

 

[saintsreturn]

and thats why you dont give up! Well done!

 

[Coralreefer1]

If you can, take the rock out and scrub off the algae etc. and rinse in new saltwater. Do a couple large water changes. Try keeping your lights off and reduce feeding. Add carbon or other filter media to reduce nitrates and phosphates. Good job...

 

[Scurvy]

Amazing turnaround!

 

[jasonamyers]

Jason did I miss this update

That after pic is shocking

Did you rip clean that setup, the ole manual lawnmower I'm taking back the entire tank by six pm technique

The sand and rocks look detail cleaned, and skip cycle reassembled. Can you detail your cleaning i want to link this to our sand rinse thread. Curious what ratio of turnaround was physical cleaning and what portion was doser, looks 80/20 to me

So my process wasn’t very special. I immediately set about doing 25% weekly water changes from the week I posted this until Thanksgiving. I alternated between using the python to siphon the sand or just a simple tube to siphon off the rocks. Each water change I dosed Dr. Tim refresh. Things took on a different look after that more stringy and less gooey. So Thanksgiving weekend, I did a 80% water change cleaning the rocks and the sand with the siphon and dose the last of the refresh and killed the lights for 4 days. That knocked a ton of the stringy stuff back. I then did another 80% water change, dosed Biorospira and brought up just a bit of light from my LEDs only. Things got stable, so I added in some clean up crew (emerald crabs and snails) Since then it’s just be 10% water changes and slowly bringing the light back up, but I got pest nems popping up now. So just a ton of siphoning, bacterial replacement and water changes.