Solenoid from Neptune ((Confused))

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I received my solenoid from Aquacave on Thursday...tried to put it together on the EB832...No love, then I hooked up the One Link and plugged it into that module, No love either. No new titles showed up either on the Apex Dashboard. Is there something different that I need to do to get a solenoid to work/activated?

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The solenoid is not a module. You control the solenoid using the DC24 output it is plugged into.

 
The solenoid will not automatically create a new tile. New tiles show up when a new Module is connected (such as the EB832 or the 1Link modules you mentioned) because they introduce new outputs that the Apex had never seen before. But the solenoid is not a Module. It just plugs into an existing output on the EB832, 1Link, or FMM module.

Think of it like this…If you plug in a heater or a skimmer on your EnergyBar, that’s not creating a new output. You’re simply plugging into an output that already existed on that hosting module.

The 24v Accessory ports on the EB832 have default names of LinkA_#_9 and LinkB_#_10 where # is the AquaBus address of your EB832. If those tiles are not already on your dashboard, click the padlock icon to reveal the Unused Tiles window at the top of the screen and click to drag the needed tiles onto the dashboard. You can rename the appropriate output to Solenoid so it’s easier to identify.

You can also use the System View to see the names of your existing outputs on each module. In my example below, the 24v Accessory ports (9 and 10) on my EB832 are named SPS_PMUP and EB_GRO:

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The solenoid will not automatically create a new tile. New tiles show up when a new Module is connected (such as the EB832 or the 1Link modules you mentioned) because they introduce new outputs that the Apex had never seen before. But the solenoid is not a Module. It just plugs into an existing output on the EB832, 1Link, or FMM module.

Think of it like this…If you plug in a heater or a skimmer on your EnergyBar, that’s not creating a new output. You’re simply plugging into an output that already existed on that hosting module.

The 24v Accessory ports on the EB832 have default names of LinkA_#_9 and LinkB_#_10 where # is the AquaBus address of your EB832. If those tiles are not already on your dashboard, click the padlock icon to reveal the Unused Tiles window at the top of the screen and click to drag the needed tiles onto the dashboard. You can rename the appropriate output to Solenoid so it’s easier to identify.

You can also use the System View to see the names of your existing outputs on each module. In my example below, the 24v Accessory ports (9 and 10) on my EB832 are named SPS_PMUP and EB_GRO:

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@SuncrestReef So I have mine plugged into the One Link ACC port 1, and for the life of me, it doesn't show-up on the expanded view. Only the Trident and the Doser show up on the Expanded view on the ONE LINK. See Pic
 

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@SuncrestReef So I have mine plugged into the One Link ACC port 1, and for the life of me, it doesn't show-up on the expanded view. Only the Trident and the Doser show up on the Expanded view on the ONE LINK. See Pic
I’m guessing you just have those outputs on you 1Link mis-named. A 1Link module has 3 1Link ports and 2 24v Accessory outputs. The 1Link ports are not considered Outputs and will not show up on the System View, just like AquaBus ports don’t show up there. Only once you connect a 1Link accessory (like your Trident or DOS) will that device show up as its own Module in the tree, as you can see with your TRIDENT and DOSER modules above and below the ONE-LNK module in the tree.

To confirm what I’m describing, click the gear icon on the PWER-DOSER output to get to its configuration screen and look at the Location description. It should say “24VDC Accessory Output A on the 1Link module named ONE-LNK”.

If that’s the case, just rename the outputs to match what’s actually plugged in. Turn that output on and it should activate your solenoid.
 
Good morning, thx again for your assistance. I have the Trident and the Doser plugged directly into the ONE Link via and the Solenoid plugged into the One Links ACC port #1; the One link is then plugged into the EB832 with a (24VDC and USB) the EB832 is plugged into the HEAD-Unit (Apex). I am not sure if I need the USB from ONE-LINK to the (EB832). But the Solenoid itself is the one that doesn't show up or is not visible in any form. Everything else is visible for me to control.
 

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…the One link is then plugged into the EB832 with a (24VDC and USB) …
Apologies if I misunderstand, but the 1-Link should only be connected to the EB825 via USB and its external power supply.

All 24VDC ports should be connected to accessories such as PMUP, solenoids, valves, WAVs.
 
Apologies if I misunderstand, but the 1-Link should only be connected to the EB825 via USB and its external power supply.

All 24VDC ports should be connected to accessories such as PMUP, solenoids, valves, WAVs.
Oh really, well that's good to know, I will unplug the unnecessary USBs. @SuncrestReef I switched all of the "Power Doser/TRIDENT' buttons to "OFF" on the Dashboard, which I have plugged into the ONE LINK, which is then plugged into the EB832. However, the actual trident and doser stayed on and continued their normal schedules with no interruption, which is where my confusion comes into and why I can't figure out where the Solenoid is powered. I reached out to BRS, they should be calling me on Monday to help walk me through this step
 
Oh really, well that's good to know, I will unplug the unnecessary USBs. @SuncrestReef I switched all of the "Power Doser/TRIDENT' buttons to "OFF" on the Dashboard, which I have plugged into the ONE LINK, which is then plugged into the EB832. However, the actual trident and doser stayed on and continued their normal schedules with no interruption, which is where my confusion comes into and why I can't figure out where the Solenoid is powered. I reached out to BRS, they should be calling me on Monday to help walk me through this step
It sounds like you're getting more confused as this progresses. Let me explain it more clearly:

1. Each module needs to be connected together with AquaBus (USB) cables in order for the Apex to communicate with them.
2. You need to rename the 24V Accessory Port A on your ONE-LNK module because it has nothing to do with your Trident or DOS. Change the name to "Solenoid".
3. Then if you move the Solenoid slider to ON, you will hear your Solenoid click as it turns on.


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It sounds like you're getting more confused as this progresses. Let me explain it more clearly:

1. Each module needs to be connected together with AquaBus (USB) cables in order for the Apex to communicate with them.
2. You need to rename the 24V Accessory Port A on your ONE-LNK module because it has nothing to do with your Trident or DOS. Change the name to "Solenoid".
3. Then if you move the Solenoid slider to ON, you will hear your Solenoid click as it turns on.


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@SuncrestReef OMG, this makes SO MUCH sense....Thank you. I removed the ONE Link Module and deleted it from my system; as well as removed that extra USB cable; I didn't need to use the One Link. I reviewed the EB832 manual and didn't find this question, which one of the ACC ports on the EB832 is "A" and which one is "B"? I assumed from TOP to BOTTOM, "A" is on Top and "B" is on the Bottom.
 
@SuncrestReef OMG, this makes SO MUCH sense....Thank you. I removed the ONE Link Module and deleted it from my system; as well as removed that extra USB cable; I didn't need to use the One Link. I reviewed the EB832 manual and didn't find this question, which one of the ACC ports on the EB832 is "A" and which one is "B"? I assumed from TOP to BOTTOM, "A" is on Top and "B" is on the Bottom.
@SuncrestReef I have another question regarding the Solenoid set-up, I assume it is CLOSED/No Air is coming in when programmed to AUTO or OFF. However, when it is turned on either manually to ON or to the programmed setting in my case 8.35 PH, will I hear audible AIR sucking into the solenoid back into my CO2 scrubber? I turned it on (I can hear the EB832 port that it is plugged into, "CLICKS" but that is it...no air coming in...
 

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@SuncrestReef I have another question regarding the Solenoid set-up, I assume it is CLOSED/No Air is coming in when programmed to AUTO or OFF. However, when it is turned on either manually to ON or to the programmed setting in my case 8.35 PH, will I hear audible AIR sucking into the solenoid back into my CO2 scrubber? I turned it on (I can hear the EB832 port that it is plugged into, "CLICKS" but that is it...no air coming in...
My understanding of the SV-1 solenoid is that it's only designed for pressurized applications.

See: https://forum.neptunesystems.com/sh...a-CO2-scrubber&p=182865&viewfull=1#post182865
 
You ever find a solution for this?
Yeah, I just purchased a motorized valve (it doesn't get physically hot like the Neptune solenoid) from Amazon, plugged it into one of my EB832 outlets (#7) and programmed the port with the pH level to open/close whenever my levels go about 8.35 (which it does regularly with the addition of the AF Scrubber).


 
Yeah, I just purchased a motorized valve (it doesn't get physically hot like the Neptune solenoid) from Amazon, plugged it into one of my EB832 outlets (#7) and programmed the port with the pH level to open/close whenever my levels go about 8.35 (which it does regularly with the addition of the AF Scrubber).


How did you handle air flow to skimmer when valve is closed?
 
How did you handle air flow to skimmer when valve is closed?
I used a two way splitter. One runs towards the motorized valve that is in "CLOSED" state and the other one goes directly towards the skimmer (flexible tubing). See 30 second video of my set-up
 

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