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I have an Atlantic spadefish by himself in a 300 gallon fowlr and I am starting to see sighs of flukes. He is flashing on live rock and twitching his head and fins. I did treat the tank today with Prazi Pro but don't know what steps I should take from here. Could the fish just fight of the flukes on his own with the proper nutrition? AS are hardy fish.
 
I have an Atlantic spadefish by himself in a 300 gallon fowlr and I am starting to see sighs of flukes. He is flashing on live rock and twitching his head and fins. I did treat the tank today with Prazi Pro but don't know what steps I should take from here. Could the fish just fight of the flukes on his own with the proper nutrition? AS are hardy fish.

Do one more dose of Prazi in 5 -7 days. The eggs will hatch on the fish and these new babies are what your targeting with this last round of prazi. You may want to consider antibiotics such as furan 2 or kanaplex after the prazi is done just to ward off any infection that might set in with the insertion points from the flukes.... but really you could probably just watch him to see if he developes any signs of infection.
 
Do one more dose of Prazi in 5 -7 days. The eggs will hatch on the fish and these new babies are what your targeting with this last round of prazi. You may want to consider antibiotics such as furan 2 or kanaplex after the prazi is done just to ward off any infection that might set in with the insertion points from the flukes.... but really you could probably just watch him to see if he developes any signs of infection.
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Make sure flukes is all that is wrong (look for other symptoms or spots)
 
How do you know for sure it's flukes? Flashing/twitching could also be ich in the gills.
 
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He's seems to be acting normal. He is swimming around like crazy as well as eating. He is a newer fish of mine, so this could maybe even be stress related and the spade Is just trying to get over it.
 
How will i know for sure that it is either both flukes or ich?

You'd have to do a FW dip to be sure (see below).

Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes, Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.
 
How will i know for sure that it is either both flukes or ich?

If you hadn't already dosed the Prazi I would suggest a FW dip. Now, I figure if after the second dose he's still flashing and twitching/ OR if you see spots on him during this time, you can probably bet on ich. Just watch him closely and keep his food nutritious & his water clean.
You'd have to do a FW dip to be sure (see below).

Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes, Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.
Humble beat me to it.... Would he see any flukes come off if he already did the first dose of Prazi?
 
I personally do not want to put any stress on this fish. If worst comes to worst I will then use freshwater dip. I have dipped fish in freshwater for parasites but I think that this case is early enough to use medication. I am going to keep an eye on him and do Prazi pro treatments when needed
 
I must have missed that part (getting old/senile :p). They've already dislodged if Prazipro was used today. I would dose again in 5-7 days and see if the flashing/twitching eventually goes away.

lol... that's ok. I'm getting a cold and my brain is all fuzzy today!
 
I personally do not want to put any stress on this fish. If worst comes to worst I will then use freshwater dip. I have dipped fish in freshwater for parasites but I think that this case is early enough to use medication. I am going to keep an eye on him and do Prazi pro treatments when needed

I think that's the best plan. Just wait and see after the next dose. Ich isn't a very fast killer (typically) so you definitely have time to observe. I say this because he looks healthy and is acting healthy and still eating. Keep us posted!
 
So happy! My spade is doing much better. I haven't seen any sighs or behaviors of ich of flukes in the past time we discussed. He is even more active too!
Great to hear!
 

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