Spotted Scorpion Fish

LouisianaReef · Jan 30, 2023

I should mention in the photos of the trigger I had just feed brine shrimp so that could be some of what is seen the the picture

LouisianaReef · Jan 30, 2023

Do you think the hypo salinity method would be worth a try before a tear down for copper treatment?

Jay Hemdal · Jan 30, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
Is hypos salinity (.009) still an effective method for ich? I know some people has success with this method years ago. It’s a huge tank (8 ft x 2 ft x 2 with over 200 pounds of rock so it would be a major project to remove fish for copper treatment. I haven’t observed labored breathing or scraping in either fish. Trigger eats like a hog, scorpion took shrimp from tongs this morning.

This tank has the following fish:
Spotted Scorpion
Blue Dot Puffer
Snowflake Eel
Pink tail trigger
Red tooth Trigger
Convict Tang
Sailfin Tang
Maroon Clown
Lunar Wrasse

No inverts or coral.

@vetteguy53081 @Jay Hemdal

Yes, hyposalinity is a viable option for you. It also has the added benefit of controlling flukes - just in case that is the issue. Here is my post about hypo:

Hyposalinity

Hyposalinity Jay Hemdal 2024 This term refers to a long-term bath treatment for marine fishes in which the salt content of the water is lowered and held below the point that certain parasites can survive. The salt level reached, and the time of the treatment are the two variables...

www.reef2reef.com

Jay

LouisianaReef · Feb 2, 2023

Still in the process of bringing the system down to hypo salinity levels but was able to get a couple of better pictures of the trigger to attempt to confirm the ich diagnose. I also included an overall picture of the tank.

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081

vetteguy53081 · Feb 2, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
Still in the process of bringing the system down to hypo salinity levels but was able to get a couple of better pictures of the trigger to attempt to confirm the ich diagnose. I also included an overall picture of the tank.

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081

Pics somewhat fuzzy but I’m seeing bacterial tufts

Jay Hemdal · Feb 2, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
Still in the process of bringing the system down to hypo salinity levels but was able to get a couple of better pictures of the trigger to attempt to confirm the ich diagnose. I also included an overall picture of the tank.

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081

The spots on the body aren’t ich, in the earlier photo I was looking more at the spots on the fins.
Jay

LouisianaReef · Feb 2, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
The spots on the body aren’t ich, in the earlier photo I was looking more at the spots on the fins.
Jay

What treatment would you recommend?

Jay Hemdal · Feb 2, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
What treatment would you recommend?

Just continue with the hypo.
Jay

LouisianaReef · Feb 2, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
Just continue with the hypo.
Jay

Will do thanks so much for the advice

LouisianaReef · Feb 4, 2023

Tank has been at hypo since yesterday. Noticed this in the scorpion fishes right eye. Concerned that wouldn’t be caused by flukes or ich. Maybe Injury? The eyeball also seems sunken in compared to the other.

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081

Jay Hemdal · Feb 4, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
Tank has been at hypo since yesterday. Noticed this in the scorpion fishes right eye. Concerned that wouldn’t be caused by flukes or ich. Maybe Injury? The eyeball also seems sunken in compared to the other.

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081

Not sure what I’m looking at - is the cornea of the eye missing?
Jay

vetteguy53081 · Feb 4, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
Tank has been at hypo since yesterday. Noticed this in the scorpion fishes right eye. Concerned that wouldn’t be caused by flukes or ich. Maybe Injury? The eyeball also seems sunken in compared to the other.

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081

Eye is infected and often this happens when left untreated after injury. Have you treated it as previously suggested, since suggested? Ethromyacin is best bet at this point if it hasn't become accelerated using Maracyn AKA maracyn 1 or seachem Kanaplex ASAP for at least 5 days

vetteguy53081 · Feb 4, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
Not sure what I’m looking at - is the cornea of the eye missing?
Jay

here is blow up of eye

LouisianaReef · Feb 4, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
Not sure what I’m looking at - is the cornea of the eye missing?
Jay

That’s what it appears

LouisianaReef · Feb 4, 2023

vetteguy53081 said:
Eye is infected and often this happens when left untreated after injury. Have you treated it as previously suggested, since suggested? Ethromyacin is best bet at this point if it hasn't become accelerated using Maracyn AKA maracyn 1 or seachem Kanaplex ASAP for at least 5 days

I have followed the treatment suggested by Jay. Just noticed this eye a little while ago as the area of the tank that the scorpion fish stays in that eyes faces the back of the back. The tank is hypo at .009 for ich and hypo treatment as jay said what would be viable in my situation. Can something like Ethromyacin be use with the hypo salinity? Also need something that would be safe with eels in the system.

Jay Hemdal · Feb 4, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
That’s what it appears

I’ve seen that happen from flukes as well as secondary bacterial infections (and those often go hand in hand) I’ve never seen it grow back though.
Jay

LouisianaReef · Feb 4, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
I’ve seen that happen from flukes as well as secondary bacterial infections (and those often go hand in hand) I’ve never seen it grow back though.
Jay

Well the hypo should treat the flukes, as well as ich if he has that, correct? What about bacterial infections? Will the hypo treat the bacterial as well or should I treat the system with some type of meds?

vetteguy53081 · Feb 4, 2023

LouisianaReef said:
I have followed the treatment suggested by Jay. Just noticed this eye a little while ago as the area of the tank that the scorpion fish stays in that eyes faces the back of the back. The tank is hypo at .009 for ich and hypo treatment as jay said what would be viable in my situation. Can something like Ethromyacin be use with the hypo salinity? Also need something that would be safe with eels in the system.

I never treat in hypo.