Sps Bleaching problem.

[North Borders]

And you're 100% that you weren't running zero nitrates/phos during that time? Zero-low nutrients at that dkH could totally be the cause of the STN on the stony corals. What was the reasoning for the bio-pellets?

 

[jonas helsted]

And you're 100% that you weren't running zero nitrates/phos during that time? Zero-low nutrients at that dkH could totally be the cause of the STN on the stony corals. What was the reasoning for the bio-pellets?

phospate has never reached zero been between 0,04 and 0,08 ppm. nitrates has been zero for a while..

the biopelles has just been a part of the system since the start of the the aquarium. so no specific reason other den helping whit nitrates.

im 100 % or 99,8 %.

 

[SeaDweller]

IME, low nutrients starved corals to the point they pale out, but I haven't lost any to them being low. That's just my experience with it and possibly luck. Too high of nutrients as we know, will brown them out (not the case here). If your nitrates are 8 and your phosphates are low but not zero, that seems to be a good level many strive for.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the pics looks like there is cyano on the rocks right?

I agree that they look dead, you have to test your water, any stray voltage? I know you dip, but sometimes pest still get thru. You may have to check and check again.

Sometimes acros just die out of nowhere.

 

[najer]

If you have the light that close to the water level and it only went over the tank at the end of June then my opinion is that they got light shocked / bleached.
I run a pac sun hybrid now but ran leds for years, they are harsh lights when they are that close to the water level.

 

[jonas helsted]

I might be the light Shock as mentioned. Send the triton test Waiting for the results. My old Acropora are dead and some of the new one some is struggling to servive Fanny ting My Favia is having a hard time also now. That should be one of the easy corals to keep.

Values hasent moved much

Kh 9
Ca 420
Mg 1400
No3 5
po4 0,04

Switched to a vertex Calcium Reactor the old one was bugging me. Thats why the raise in values.

There is No Cyano in the Aquarium. but lots of Coraline algee

 

[jonas helsted]

 

[jonas helsted]

Recived my triton results today. There was tin Cooper lithium zink in the Aquarium so that explains alot. I removed the biopellets, and have to do large water changed now, where it comes from os a mistery dont see any rustet pumps.

Since im a mechanic i guess it could be left overs on my hands oil ect.?

Using real reef rock plates dont Think it could be Them?

Turned up the light to try it out. If u look at the last picture above post it look like the caulastrea its like its resending guess thats to much light?

 

[Newb_reefer1]

Those metals are you're number one problem. Take care of those before doing anything with the light.

 

[jonas helsted]

yes undergoing some water changes these days before i leave for verication. next thing is to think of some more better light atm im in contact whit giesemann whit a complain when i specifically asked for light there would give a lot of pars. and im having 250ish at the top at the highest. so they sold me some light wich dosent for fill what i asked for.

waiting for them to reply back just sad when u spend around 1300 euro on the light and now have to look for new lights again. thats a lot of money down the drain. this aquarium is getting more and more expensive. should perhaps have went whit the aqua medic model instead also a closed top. would have saved me a lot of money in the end.

 

[Newb_reefer1]

What model light are you running ? I'm not sure if you said it already but they should definitely do something about that. Make an email and explain to them the way you explained to us , that you specifically spent the 1300 euros on THEIR light fixture because they told YOU it would WORK. Not cool on their part and things like this can damage reputation easily so if they think twice about refunding you or replacing with another fixture. Make a fuss !

 

[jonas helsted]

They advised me to buy 3 pulzar 65 w HO (High outpu)t led bars. they have to be mounted in a close Aquarium and be water resistant.

I Even found moisture on the innerside og the lens.

They infact told me 2 where enought and i bought an extra. Haha.

Should have want Whit the ghl lightbars i looked at.

 

[Newb_reefer1]

Yea that's no Bueno. Talk to a sales representative see if they can replace it with a new one that dosent have bad seals water should never be in you're lenses first off. GHL is nice but if you're spending 1300 Euro is look at some other led brands. Radions have proven to be beast led fixtures I've also heard very good things about the AI hydra 52 fixture things to keep in mind if they aren't willing to cooperate with you get you're money back and go elsewhere !

 

[jonas helsted]

Yea that's no Bueno. Talk to a sales representative see if they can replace it with a new one that dosent have bad seals water should never be in you're lenses first off. GHL is nice but if you're spending 1300 Euro is look at some other led brands. Radions have proven to be beast led fixtures I've also heard very good things about the AI hydra 52 fixture things to keep in mind if they aren't willing to cooperate with you get you're money back and go elsewhere !

Cant go for radion and Ai since its a closed Aquarium so they have to be water resistant

 

[Newb_reefer1]

Hmm very strange condensation would build up inside the LEDs especially if they were designed to be used in that fashion. Like I said earlier you're gonna need to contact one of their sales reps and see what they can do for you. Could it be possible the water inside is blocking out some of the LED spectrum like salt spray/creep does ? Cause I know my metal halides look noticably dimmer to my eyes if I let the salt spray build up so I could only imagine what it would do to the light output

 

[jonas helsted]

i remove the salt crusts and dry off lenses every week, and mesurared after it aint that, same measurement i got when they where brand new. ( 2 month old )

 

[jonas helsted]

Hmm very strange condensation would build up inside the LEDs especially if they were designed to be used in that fashion. Like I said earlier you're gonna need to contact one of their sales reps and see what they can do for you. Could it be possible the water inside is blocking out some of the LED spectrum like salt spray/creep does ? Cause I know my metal halides look noticably dimmer to my eyes if I let the salt spray build up so I could only imagine what it would do to the light output

Så i did some research and since the product they delivered aint What i asked for and they promised When i ordred they Will refound the light and BT module losning the transport and have to Pay for transport to Them.

I decided to go for th New radion xr30 pro g4 Whit rms mount and change the top glass to clear glass instead to keep it a closed top. Then just ramp the 2 radion abit op to compensate.

 

[Newb_reefer1]

Can't go wrong with those G4 pro's ! Those things will give you some crazy spectrum options for sure, but how are you dealing with the heavy metal problem in you're water ? That still needs to be addressed if you wish to successfully keep hard corals albeit the radions will definitely be a huge step up from you're previous lights that won't change them from dying to thriving

 

[Kungpaoshizi]

I had aluminum once from some black sand, all the corals were pretty much 'blah'.

 

[jonas helsted]

Im dealing Whit it from water change. Changed 2 weeks ago 120 l og water i 1 week and now 60 yersterday. Been to Maldives in the Mean time.

Plan is to change 60 more and then send a New triton test. See If its gotten any better. Also removed Biopellets

 

[3acp]

Read this this my help
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/help-my-sps-are-paling-and-i-dont-know-what-to-do.210035/