SPS dying, please help!

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Hi everyone, I was away for 3 weeks and came back to a very different tank. Sorry for the long post but trying to give as much detail.

Background:
My new tank is about 9mos old but with all rocks from a prior system that was almost 10yrs with thriving sps colonies.

When I started this tank the only new thing introduced was the sand, everything is 3-4yrs old but for one butterfly I got almost 2yrs ago. I really doubt it's AEFW (which I fought before) or a pest or that my fish are nipping at corals, I've had to deal with that before too.

Victims:
About 3 months ago after doing 3 Tritons and making sure all my params were stable, seeing lots of coralline and sponge growth I added 6 frags (2 green slimers, blue tenuis, rainbow acro, tricolor valida, oregon blue tort). I fragged these from my own old colonies. All have encrusted, started growing, and had good PE extension although mostly at night.

Problem:
Blue tenuis completely bleached when I returned. Oregon tort now has some brown algae on one side, 3color seems to be doing great, rainbow however looks paler than normal. I could chalk up all those to the tank being new although my sump is full of sponges which I usually considered a good sign.

However, over the last week I saw one of the green slimers turn darker, almost grayish tips, then I woke up to the other slimer frag looking very pale, not entirely bleached.

Observed Changes aka mandatory %*&t that happens when you go away:
As always, something did go wrong while I was away, I'm ordering in the order of likelihood IMO:

- DOS malfunctioned and dumped too much alk raising it to 10 from the usual 8-8.5dKh, fortunately I forgot to fill the dosing container and it was caught by my friend who was watching the tank but possibly was that way for 12+ hrs
- one of the auto feeders dumped too much food, PO4 jumped to 0.3 from the usual 0.08-0.1
- least likely, though maybe possible, my friend performed several water changes. I use HW Marinemix reefer but was out and no LFS carries that so he got a bucket of RS salt (blue)

Setup and Parameters:
- Reefer 350, oversized reef octopus skimmer, 2 gyres 230 ( lots of flow), BRS carbon reactor with mixed Rowa and Rox carbon, Razor 420R 320W lights

- Salinity: 35ppt
- Alk: usually 8-8.5 (Hanna), jumped to 10, I've stopped dosing and now it's back to 8.6
- Ca: ~440 both Triton and Hanna checker, 3/3x the match was within 10ppm
- Mg: between 1300-1400 Aquaforest test
- pH: - 8-8.3
- PO4: jumped to 0.3, but now back to 0.1 (Hanna ULR)
- NO3: 10ish
- Potassium: 390 salifert
- Temp: 78

Questions:
1) Any thoughts what to suspect and ideas what to do?
2) Could it all be from the alk jump even if it was relatively short between 12-18hrs? if so, what can I do other than keep it stable and hope it gets better?
3) Would a short phosphate jump cause issues? I'm inclined to think no...
4) Could it be the salt change? the second green slimer turned pale after a water change

Thank you!
 
Im almost wondering if a combination of all three is causing it. Thats alot of swings in a short period. #reefsquad other thoughts or suggestions?
 
When it rains it pours..

I feel like you answered your own question really, between the alk swing and phosphate uptick these are what most likely have caused your issues. The only thing you can do is get the levels back to where they were, keep them stable and just wait for the corals to turn around again.
 
Im almost wondering if a combination of all three is causing it. Thats alot of swings in a short period. #reefsquad other thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks, I thought about that, I did another water change yesterday that was no 3 this week using the RS salt. I also changed carbon. For now I'm keeping these frags in hope things improve and to monitor the situation but would like to make sure I do everything before I leave again for a week.
 
When it rains it pours..

I feel like you answered your own question really, between the alk swing and phosphate uptick these are what most likely have caused your issues. The only thing you can do is get the levels back to where they were, keep them stable and just wait for the corals to turn around again.

Thank you!

It's all stable now, I'll sit back and wait. I ordered a new box of HW. Do you think I should I stop using RS or it doesn't matter? I remember back in the day I'd use whatever salt was available but guess now that there's kind of a mix of problems may be better to just try to get things back to what worked...
 
Thank you!

It's all stable now, I'll sit back and wait. I ordered a new box of HW. Do you think I should I stop using RS or it doesn't matter? I remember back in the day I'd use whatever salt was available but guess now that there's kind of a mix of problems may be better to just try to get things back to what worked...

I would use the salt you plan on using from here on out.
 
When it rains it pours..

I feel like you answered your own question really, between the alk swing and phosphate uptick these are what most likely have caused your issues. The only thing you can do is get the levels back to where they were, keep them stable and just wait for the corals to turn around again.
100% agree. SPS want stability above all else.
 
I have found that when you increase alk too quickly, this normally leads to other issues related. The acros will shut down, this means polyps likely will not come out, which means they are not feeding, which can cause bleaching or worse, tissue necrosis. Usually the tissue necrosis from the tips during alk spike, if you catch the event soon enough and make corrections and monitor alk daily, you can eventually turn those corals around, but does require patience. My worst issues were always when I had knee-jerk reactions, and tried to correct too quickly. Hope it all works out :)
 
Thanks everyone! FWIW I don’t think it got worse overnight, I’ll resume dosing alk today to keep it stable and see if they pull through.

And agree stuff always seem to happen when you go away. I’ve almost never had equipment malfunction or a skimmer overflow when I was at home...
 

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