SPS ID

[SeaDweller]

Look at my reply again, I added a pic of the mother. It's a bad pic though but maybe you can see it. Structure looks kinda different, maybe because of light? Here's the whole tank

The structure doesn’t “kinda” look different, it’s just not a WD, let alone a tenuis. Just call it a Goofy. Looks like A. horrida to me too.

 

[Jason Truong]

The structure doesn’t “kinda” look different, it’s just not a WD, let alone a tenuis. Just call it a Goofy. Looks like A. horrida to me too.

When I said "kinda different" I was referring the mother to the rest of the frags bro. It does indeed look like a horrida though.

 

[SeaDweller]

When I said "kinda different" I was referring the mother to the rest of the frags bro.

Unfortunately, regardless of which of the 30 pieces you posted, none of them look like WD in color or species, not even the mother colony. I get you’re trying to clarify it for your sale, but it was even mentioned in there it wasn’t. Obviously you’re even doubting it: you went from being positive to not even knowing. Unless it morphs into a tenuis, I wouldn’t even try selling it for what you’re asking. Good luck.

 

[Jason Truong]

Unfortunately, regardless of which of the 30 pieces you posted, none of them look like WD in color or species, not even the mother colony. I get you’re trying to clarify it for your sale, but it was even mentioned in there it wasn’t. Obviously you’re even doubting it: you went from being positive to not even knowing. Unless it morphs into a tenuis, I wouldn’t even try selling it for what you’re asking. Good luck.

looks pretty close in color...many other people think so too, even if it's not a WD. I came here for an ID so cool it with the attitude please

 

[Jason Truong]

If it’s the coral I think in the pic it isn’t WD, hope you didn’t get taken. Light has more to do with color and growth. Flow has the most impact on growth pattern

Yeah I think you're completely right. He's going to be so disappointed when I tell him they're not real WDs...yet alone the right species .

 

[Graffiti Spot]

The piece looks pretty cool though, I would love to see some better pictures for sure. They all seem too close up or something and I can’t get any good looks from my phone. Can you try to get some better pictures in some white light?

 

[C. Eymann]

I agree, better/ more pics can do nothing but solidify IDs more.

If you can get a few more pics of those frags seller has, esp with polyps retracted it would definitely help get some better opinions

 

[C. Eymann]

Back in the dawn of the designer sps trade it wasnt _________ 's rainbow bubble gum whatever unless you could prove the lineage back to _________. Because the mariculture ops and w/c exporters keep up with what's hot, I'd see this first hand, like when tubbs superman and reeffarmers tyree rainbow montipora where booming in popularity in the mid 2000s I started seeing tons of maricultured M. monasteriata / danae wild superman's and rainbows show up in orders, same with the Strawberry shortcake craze, all the sudden all the w/c acropora coming from down under were A. microclados "shortcake type" pieces.
Thing is it was looked down upon to slap these designer names onto wild grown or collected types that shared the same color morph of the OG/real deal, didn't stop people though.

In this case, it's not even a WD "imposter" because its morphology differs quite a bit from A. tenuis.

Just my .02

 

[Brice Noonan]

Hi all. These are mine. Just posted on the other thread too. Won the original 3/4" frag from Mike Biggar in 2015 (anyone remember the raffles he used to run, pick a number 1-40 for $20?). Here are some better photos.

 

[Jason Truong]

^ That is the mother colony btw

 

[Brice Noonan]

3rd photo is actually the largest frag. Coincidentally (and speaking to the influence of flow and light) it was exactly the same size as that larger "mother colony" when I moved it from the frag rack to the center of the tank a year or so ago.

 

[Jettareefer223]

When I said "kinda different" I was referring the mother to the rest of the frags bro. It does indeed look like a horrida though.

The structure doesn’t “kinda” look different, it’s just not a WD, let alone a tenuis. Just call it a Goofy. Looks like A. horrida to me too.

I was thinking the same thing the polyp definitely match and it has the right growth pattern. It’s kinda of small to be for sure. Here’s my horrida one of my oldest acros currently. A true survivor lol.

 

[SeaDweller]

Hi all. These are mine. Just posted on the other thread too. Won the original 3/4" frag from Mike Biggar in 2015 (anyone remember the raffles he used to run, pick a number 1-40 for $20?). Here are some better photos.

those are some clearer pics, perhaps your student should have asked you for the first two. The difference is that your first two pics depict a mostly typical tenuis structure, regardless if it's WD or not. The structure can be seen, and there are clearly defined radial corallites. His pics show nothing that resemble a tenuis at all: naked polyps and questionable radial corallites that house them; looks nothing like a tenuis. I have some tenuis that aren't getting much light or flow but still express typical tenuis structure and form.

good luck selling them.

 

[C. Eymann]

3rd photo is actually the largest frag. Coincidentally (and speaking to the influence of flow and light) it was exactly the same size as that larger "mother colony" when I moved it from the frag rack to the center of the tank a year or so ago.

Post pics of those other frags and mother colony with the polyps retracted.

 

[ajcanale]

I believe what we are looking at is a specimen that has grown out in atypical conditions for this acropora.

If it means anything to anyone I can verify it's origins - that Brice won it from one of Biggar's raffles. I recall discussing it with him as I had just acquired my first frag of it as well.

In regards to the bare polyps with no defined coralites. My colony has bare polyps all around the base and mid section where there is no branching.
Can somewhat be seen on the left hand side of this macro shot.

 

[C. Eymann]

I believe what we are looking at is a specimen that has grown out in atypical conditions for this acropora.

If it means anything to anyone I can verify it's origins - that Brice won it from one of Biggar's raffles. I recall discussing it with him as I had just acquired my first frag of it as well.

In regards to the bare polyps with no defined coralites. My colony has bare polyps all around the base and mid section where there is no branching.
Can somewhat be seen on the left hand side of this macro shot.

What's throwing me is that OPs radials are not presenting the flared dimidiate that is typical of A. tenuis, OPs corals corallites also appear more immersed than typical A. tenuis.

That being said, Acropora's morphology can vary depending on flow and lighting, however it mostly impacts the colony growth form and density, not the corallites structure in my experience, however, in this day in age of LEDs and super wacky spectrums/lighting settings it's always possible.


Again, with any ID really helps if the polyps are retracted so skeletal structure is easier to see.

 

[SeaDweller]

What's throwing me is that OPs radials are not presenting the flared dimidiate that is typical of A. tenuis, OPs corals corallites also appear more immersed than typical A. tenuis.

That being said, Acropora's morphology can vary depending on flow and lighting, however it mostly impacts the colony growth form and density, not the corallites structure in my experience, however, in this day in age of LEDs and super wacky spectrums/lighting settings it's always possible.


Again, with any ID really helps if the polyps are retracted so skeletal structure is easier to see.

You're such a nerd.


But I'll roll with you!