Starting a reef. Need some advice.

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Been running a FOWLR for about a year and a half and finally think I have a pretty good grasp on how all this works. Been upgrading lights, pumps, rock work, building a fish room, etc. in preparation for introducing corals. Now I'm almost there. So what do I set up to receive incoming additions? To start i will just be trying my hand at some softies. I have learned to exercise patience, so I want to minimize the risk of introducing invasive pests. I can find lots of info about what to do scattered all over the forum and internet, but not really a comprehensive step-by-step for newbs.

Should I set up a frag & quarantine tank in the new fishroom? Is it best to just go ahead and set up a frag tank and use that as a holding/observation station for new arrivals? Do you dip immediately? How long after dipping do you observe? Move to a different tank after dips?
 
It really depends a lot on the source of your corals and quality etc., and also what you want to do. If you like QT and frag tanks that’s good and a fine way to go.

Personally whenever I add new corals now, they get a coral dip to remove any ‘nasties’ a little acclimatisation with my tank water and then straight in. I usually leave them at the bottom of the tank for a few days in the sand to acclimatise to the lights.

just make sure your water parameters are correct as corals are far less forgiving than fish, especially alkalinity and nutrient levels depending on the species.
 
It really depends a lot on the source of your corals and quality etc., and also what you want to do. If you like QT and frag tanks that’s good and a fine way to go.

Personally whenever I add new corals now, they get a coral dip to remove any ‘nasties’ a little acclimatisation with my tank water and then straight in. I usually leave them at the bottom of the tank for a few days in the sand to acclimatise to the lights.

just make sure your water parameters are correct as corals are far less forgiving than fish, especially alkalinity and nutrient levels depending on the species.
I try to get everything from a reputable source, even if it means paying a little more. That's not to say I will never pick something up at the LFS, which I trust, but they do have fish in their frag tanks, and I'm not risking a*nother velvet outbreak. Once is really enough for me on that. So the dip will prevent such introductions?
 
I try to get everything from a reputable source, even if it means paying a little more. That's not to say I will never pick something up at the LFS, which I trust, but they do have fish in their frag tanks, and I'm not risking a*nother velvet outbreak. Once is really enough for me on that. So the dip will prevent such introductions?
I don’t think velvet or ich affects corals other than maybe potentially ‘temporarily bothering them or resting on them’ (someone please correct me if I’m wrong here) but the Coral dips will remove various unwanted guests.

I use Polyplab reef primer but there are others of course and my LFS actually uses Lugols solution diluted.
 
To start i will just be trying my hand at some softies.


This is a nit pick, but I'm not nit picking at you. Do not believe what you read about soft corals. They are not "beginner corals". They are not "easy" corals. Some of the hardest corals to keep are softies and people just label them "not suitable for captivity."

Yes, there are some easy octorals (soft corals) out there, but there are also just as many easy SPS, LPS, polyps, and fungiidea. There are also just as many "cheap" SPS, LPS, etc as there are softies.

Why am I telling you this? (It's not to be a jerk I promise). Don't get soft corals because you feel like you *have* to. They are not training wheels. They are not a stepping stones. If you want to have a reef tank then have the tank YOU want. If you like SPS, then start with EASY SPS and work your way up. If you like LPS, the same. And the rest? Yeah, if those are what you like, start with the hardy varieties then move to the more exotic and delicate as you get better.

What you learn about keeping softies will have little to no application about SPS, LPS, etc. and vise versa. Each family of coral has different needs, decide which family you like, then the species, then learn about it's needs and design your tank around that.

If you want a "starter" tank, then start with a specific species then add other corals that are similar as you master each one. It's far easier to maintain a tank with one family of similar species, than to drop in three different families of coral and try to juggle your parameters to meet the wildly different requirements/needs.

This is your tank. Do what you want, with the kind of corals you want, just be smart about it.
 
This is a nit pick, but I'm not nit picking at you. Do not believe what you read about soft corals. They are not "beginner corals". They are not "easy" corals. Some of the hardest corals to keep are softies and people just label them "not suitable for captivity."

Yes, there are some easy octorals (soft corals) out there, but there are also just as many easy SPS, LPS, polyps, and fungiidea. There are also just as many "cheap" SPS, LPS, etc as there are softies.

Why am I telling you this? (It's not to be a jerk I promise). Don't get soft corals because you feel like you *have* to. They are not training wheels. They are not a stepping stones. If you want to have a reef tank then have the tank YOU want. If you like SPS, then start with EASY SPS and work your way up. If you like LPS, the same. And the rest? Yeah, if those are what you like, start with the hardy varieties then move to the more exotic and delicate as you get better.

What you learn about keeping softies will have little to no application about SPS, LPS, etc. and vise versa. Each family of coral has different needs, decide which family you like, then the species, then learn about it's needs and design your tank around that.

If you want a "starter" tank, then start with a specific species then add other corals that are similar as you master each one. It's far easier to maintain a tank with one family of similar species, than to drop in three different families of coral and try to juggle your parameters to meet the wildly different requirements/needs.

This is your tank. Do what you want, with the kind of corals you want, just be smart about it.

What you're saying makes perfect sense. My first obstacle is, since I've never had any, I don't actually know which ones I like. I do like bright colors, flowing shapes and movement with the flow of the water. I do have a lot of fish, a few shrimp and a couple crabs. So I guess compatibility is an issue as well. I have made a point of acquiring only reef safe fish since I decided to eventually add corals, but a do have a bluespot puffer that's been in my tank since I planned it to be FOWLR in the beginning. I could re-home him if necessary.

What is a good resource for what are easier and more difficult to keep corals? I have come to rely pretty heavily on LA's descriptions for compatibility and care requirements for fish, is their info on corals similarly reliable? I don't really know what to look for.
 
What you're saying makes perfect sense. My first obstacle is, since I've never had any, I don't actually know which ones I like. I do like bright colors, flowing shapes and movement with the flow of the water. I do have a lot of fish, a few shrimp and a couple crabs. So I guess compatibility is an issue as well. I have made a point of acquiring only reef safe fish since I decided to eventually add corals, but a do have a bluespot puffer that's been in my tank since I planned it to be FOWLR in the beginning. I could re-home him if necessary.

What is a good resource for what are easier and more difficult to keep corals? I have come to rely pretty heavily on LA's descriptions for compatibility and care requirements for fish, is their info on corals similarly reliable? I don't really know what to look for.



While I can't speak for all of LA's descriptions, I can tell you without a doubt, when concerning octorals, most of them are incorrect and mix up species calling them the same thing when they aren't. This is a common issue with a lot of sites. People just don't seem to have a desire to actually understand what they have in their tank beyond cute fluffy names that sound good in a sales pitch.

IOW, it's not going to be easy to get the information you're looking for. You can check out a few books, but even they tend to be lacking in a lot of relevant information.

As boring as it sounds, this is what I would suggest, get a biology book, learn the basics. When it comes to what fish eat what, I've found LA's information a bit more accurate, and of course there are species overviews on actual edu sites. https://www.inaturalist.org is a good place to get actual scientists who specialize in corals and fish to give input on the correct species (there are all kinds of scientists there but more than a handful of marine biologists). From there you can hit up sites like WORMS: World registry of marine species.

While I always suggest forum information with caution, there are many knowledgable people here on Reef 2 Reef. Most are open minded and willing to learn and adapt. New information about species comes in every day. New species are categorized and listed on a regular basis or species are subdivided or combined. So at some point your right info can eventually be wrong.

It's a learning process with no end.

But I think there are some good peeps here who are more than willing to help by sharing their knowledge.

In my experience, corals that are the hardest to keep are usually the bizarre morphs that occur in very particular tank conditions. The chances of you being able to match those conditions are slim and you may lose more than you keep alive. Keep things simple. Your psyche will thank you as well as your wallet.

Lastly: I honestly think people make keeping corals seem harder than it actually is. It's more about not putting fish in that will eat them than anything else. Or have fish prone to disease you have to constantly medicate. Or be constantly adding or removing fish. Except for a few out there, they're honestly fairly simple.
As long as they're compatible.

P.s. To find out what you like, take a look at some tanks in person.
 

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