Starting NO3PO4x soon!!!

[saltwater newby]

hello
I'm waiting for the arrival of my nopox from BRS it should be in on Friday. I have a few questions for reefers that have experience with this product. Nitrates are around 25ppm and phosphates at 0 i believe my phosphate is low thanks to my algae scrubber but I'm not sure as to why I have high nitrates. Maybe my system is still not mature enough. Maybe I feed too much between my sea weed and LRS? I also run a bubble magus curve 7 skimmer. Red Sea customer support said I can keep my algae scrubber running with the nopox so I will. My tank is 91 gallons total with the DT and sump. I have 7 euphyllia corals and some mixed smaller frags. What results have you had with this product and have you noticed anything new with your corals? Any advice while using this product to help keep the water Oxiganated? Thanks in advance for the advice. ~James

 

[erfig]

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[Mr. Fancy Pants]

I discontinued using Nopox. It caused nothing but problems for me.

 

[morpheas]

I use NoPoX and I can say this, used properly it can work very well. Let me explain. Red Sea mentions in their manual that you should not use the product and bring your nitrates down to 0. They suggest any number around 1-2 ppm. What I do is I have a Red Sea nitrate test and test weekly (if not twice a week) and adjust dosage accordingly. If you dose in an uncontrolled or unmonitored manner you run the risk of overdoing it and running your nitrates to 0 which might in turn stunt growth. Also, overdosing (as I found out), can cause big bacterial blooms.

I am not saying all this to discourage you from using it, I am mentioning it to make sure you keep in mind that you have to be mindful and careful of it's use. Monitor your nitrates at regular intervals and most importantly do not overdose. NoPoX is much better with reducing nitrates than phosphate so you will be doing the right thing. On a side note though, having your phosphates at absolute 0 is not so good either so you might need to monitor that closely as well.

On the oxygenation, you have your skimmer so you will be fine. It will probably go nuts especially the first few weeks so keep an eye on that.

Why did you decide to start NoPoX? Bring your nitrates down so you can keep SPS in the near future?

 

[Dank]

Worked well for me. Helped get my nitrates in line, fairly quickly. But go SLOW. I used 1/3 of the dose to start and I don't think I ever got to the dose level recommended for my tank. Slow and steady.

 

[Waboss]

I started using it about 6 months ago and still am. At first, I was dosing manually and got some really sporadic results. Probably due to inconsistency in my doses (even off by .5 ml is a big deal, especially in a smaller tank like mine) and dosing time. After I moved it over to a dosing pump (Neptune DOS) and having it dose a little all day long, I got great results AND have even gotten to the point where I know how much or less to add to meet needs as the tank changes and matures.

Now that I'm on a maintenance dosage, I only dose about .5 ml daily.........well, that was my maintenance dosage, currently it's 1 ml due to me swapping out some rock work.

Like others have said, too much = bad (bacteria blooms, possible low O2 in the water, etc.), too little = bad.....but not as bad, you just won't see the results you're looking for. I try to keep my nitrates @ 2-5 which keeps my chaeto in the sump happy too (pod house).

Also, when you first start, you'll see a lot of "stuff" on your glass and be cleaning it more often.......that's normal (I think) until you get to your "best" dosage.

 

[twilliard]

Nopox is just another carbon sourse.
Be careful and go slow with it. This skimmer is necessary to help pull bacterial flocks.
This method takes time so this is not an instant cure for no3 removal (well it doesn't remove it per say)
It takes time to build the bacteria that consumes no3
This is just a method to grow bacterial

 

[saltwater newby]

I use NoPoX and I can say this, used properly it can work very well. Let me explain. Red Sea mentions in their manual that you should not use the product and bring your nitrates down to 0. They suggest any number around 1-2 ppm. What I do is I have a Red Sea nitrate test and test weekly (if not twice a week) and adjust dosage accordingly. If you dose in an uncontrolled or unmonitored manner you run the risk of overdoing it and running your nitrates to 0 which might in turn stunt growth. Also, overdosing (as I found out), can cause big bacterial blooms.

I am not saying all this to discourage you from using it, I am mentioning it to make sure you keep in mind that you have to be mindful and careful of it's use. Monitor your nitrates at regular intervals and most importantly do not overdose. NoPoX is much better with reducing nitrates than phosphate so you will be doing the right thing. On a side note though, having your phosphates at absolute 0 is not so good either so you might need to monitor that closely as well.

On the oxygenation, you have your skimmer so you will be fine. It will probably go nuts especially the first few weeks so keep an eye on that.

Why did you decide to start NoPoX? Bring your nitrates down so you can keep SPS in the near future?

Your advice sounds to be on point with what I've researched so far, so thank you for that. The reason for using this is to lower nitrates in general, my salifert has been over 25 for a while I'd also like to try some money de corals including birdsnest to get my feet wet with sps.

 

[saltwater newby]

Worked well for me. Helped get my nitrates in line, fairly quickly. But go SLOW. I used 1/3 of the dose to start and I don't think I ever got to the dose level recommended for my tank. Slow and steady.

That's exactly what I've been thinking of doing. Start SLOW.

 

[saltwater newby]

Nopox is just another carbon sourse.
Be careful and go slow with it. This skimmer is necessary to help pull bacterial flocks.
This method takes time so this is not an instant cure for no3 removal (well it doesn't remove it per say)
It takes time to build the bacteria that consumes no3
This is just a method to grow bacterial

That makes sense...

 

[saltwater newby]

I started using it about 6 months ago and still am. At first, I was dosing manually and got some really sporadic results. Probably due to inconsistency in my doses (even off by .5 ml is a big deal, especially in a smaller tank like mine) and dosing time. After I moved it over to a dosing pump (Neptune DOS) and having it dose a little all day long, I got great results AND have even gotten to the point where I know how much or less to add to meet needs as the tank changes and matures.

Now that I'm on a maintenance dosage, I only dose about .5 ml daily.........well, that was my maintenance dosage, currently it's 1 ml due to me swapping out some rock work.

Like others have said, too much = bad (bacteria blooms, possible low O2 in the water, etc.), too little = bad.....but not as bad, you just won't see the results you're looking for. I try to keep my nitrates @ 2-5 which keeps my chaeto in the sump happy too (pod house).

Also, when you first start, you'll see a lot of "stuff" on your glass and be cleaning it more often.......that's normal (I think) until you get to your "best" dosage.

Nice!! I like the advice and the shared experience. Thank you! Can't wait to get started.

 

[Mr. Fancy Pants]

I started it at 1ml on my doser. It did work well to bring down N03 and P04. However, it think it cause other beneficial bacteria issues for me and I slowly stopped it. That is when the crash happened.

I am biased b/c of this and got away from all Red Sea products and went back to basics.

 

[saltwater newby]

I started it at 1ml on my doser. It did work well to bring down N03 and P04. However, it think it cause other beneficial bacteria issues for me and I slowly stopped it. That is when the crash happened.

I am biased b/c of this and got away from all Red Sea products and went back to basics.

Oh no, now I'm worried. Lol!!

 

[Barry jones]

I have been using nopox for a long time now and find it really good. I found that the best way for my system is to dose very small amounts every hour. I dose 0.20mls per hour 24/7 and that keeps my nitrate around 0.25 and phosphate 0.08 to 0.05. I use no other nitrate or phosphate control. I have no algae or cyno problems. It does take time to balance the dosage with the bio load in your tank and the amount you feed each day. But once I found the balance the results were good. All my sps are growing well and colours are good!

 

[saltwater newby]

I have been using nopox for a long time now and find it really good. I found that the best way for my system is to dose very small amounts every hour. I dose 0.20mls per hour 24/7 and that keeps my nitrate around 0.25 and phosphate 0.08 to 0.05. I use no other nitrate or phosphate control. I have no algae or cyno problems. It does take time to balance the dosage with the bio load in your tank and the amount you feed each day. But once I found the balance the results were good. All my sps are growing well and colours are good!

I'm starting to contemplate using a dosing pump.

 

[Barry jones]

I use a syringe pump hospital surplus lots available on eBay very accurate and adjustable down to 0.01ml per hour. Can take syringe sizes 5ml to 50ml cost £69. This one is self monitoring with a fault alarm system built in.

 

[saltwater newby]

I use a syringe pump hospital surplus lots available on eBay very accurate and adjustable down to 0.01ml per hour. Can take syringe sizes 5ml to 50ml cost £69. This one is self monitoring with a fault alarm system built in.

Really??
I will check eBay out for one of those. Thanks!!