Stocking question!

[NachoCocodrilo]

Hey guys! I'm new to the forum and to saltwater fish (I'm from argentina, so sorry for my english). I have a pretty good base of knowledge on freshwater (including predatory fish), but i think is time for me to jump into saltwater. I did a Lot of reserch, so i know about feeding, Reef lighting, aclimation, quarentine, filtration and refugium, etc.
I'm currently cycling my tank (150x55x60cm)(around 130 gallons i think), and i'm thinking about 2 stocking set ups.

1- bangai cardinal x3
- Green chromis x3
- firefish
- clownfish x2
- midas blenny
- mandarin dragonet (i know about copepods)
- Royal gramma
- blue throat trigger
- blue Tang
- yellow tang
- watchman goby
Questions about this setup:
Are all this compatible?
Could i Fit them all in my tank? (Probably not)
If i can, any order?

2- volitan lionfish

Are there any reef safe tank mates for him?
Also, if i have non invertebrate safe fish, is "more mantenience" as i can't have a clean up crew, right?

Ty all! And i'm sorry if i'm posting this in the wrong thread.

 

[sfin52]

Welcome to Reef2reef.

If you really want a lion fish the stock list is going to have to be reworked.

The lion fish will eat a fish almost the size of it's body. A fish smaller than 4 inches will most likely be food. Safe tank mates are fish bigger or as big as the likn fish.

 

[SPR1968]

Welcome to R2R and your English is excellent!

The lion fish is certainly going to limit other inhabitants but it’s your tank so....

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

Welcome to Reef2reef.

If you really want a lion fish the stock list is going to have to be reworked.

The lion fish will eat a fish almost the size of it's body. A fish smaller than 4 inches will most likely be food. Safe tank mates are fish bigger or as big as the likn fish.

Thanks! What i Ment was that i have 2 options, or list 1 OR the lion fish. But, you think that list 1 Is ok for my tank?

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

Welcome to R2R and your English is excellent!

The lion fish is certainly going to limit other inhabitants but it’s your tank so....

Haha, thanks a lot! What i Ment was that i have 2 options, or list 1 OR the lion fish. You know any reef safe fish that could go with him? Maybe a tang from list one. Also, you think that list 1 would work on my tank?(of course without the lionfish)

 

[SPR1968]

List 1 - I have most of these fish in my system of 175g and many more, so have a look at my build thread below. I have a pair off mating blue throat triggers etc

2. lion fish. Well this is somewhat limiting because of there potential for unsociable eating habits, but some of the guys who have one might be able to help

You might find this useful though

https://m.liveaquaria.com/general/general.cfm?general_pagesid=540

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

List 1 - I have most of these fish in my system of 175g and many more, so have a look at my build thread below. I have a pair off mating blue throat triggers etc

2. lion fish. Well this is somewhat limiting because of there potential for unsociable eating habits, but some of the guys who have one might be able to help

You might find this useful though

https://m.liveaquaria.com/general/general.cfm?general_pagesid=540

Great ty!

 

[Daniel Waters]

1- bangai cardinal x3
- Green chromis x3
- firefish
- clownfish x2
- midas blenny
- mandarin dragonet (i know about copepods)
- Royal gramma
- blue throat trigger
- blue Tang
- yellow tang
- watchman goby
Questions about this setup:
Are all this compatible?
Could i Fit them all in my tank? (Probably not)
If i can, any order?

That's a lot of fish in my opinion on your stocking list #1. I don't see any issues with compatiability, though, but I'm not familiar with all those fish.

The blue tang will get very large. The blue throat trigger is a nice fish, and they are eager eaters and get nice and fat. Bigger fish like that are going to put more strain on your tanks ability to process the waste. I would expect nutrients to become an issue unless you do adequate maintenance and have good nutrient export mechanisms (oversized skimmer, algae scrubber or refugium or similar).

As far as order, put your timid fish in first (fire fish, bangai cardinals, blenny, mandarin). I would then probably add the chromis and clowns next. I'm not familiar with the royal gramma, so I don't know if it would need to go in the 1st group or this second group. Note, the mandarin needs established live rock/ copepods so you may want to delay adding your first group in till you get your tank properly seeded. I'd put the tangs in together but last. Blue throats can be timid when first introduced, so I might add him before the tangs and let him get established a few weeks first. So maybe a separate single addition or put him in with the chromis and clowns.

Hope that helps.

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

That's a lot of fish in my opinion on your stocking list #1. I don't see any issues with compatiability, though, but I'm not familiar with all those fish.

The blue tang will get very large. The blue throat trigger is a nice fish, and they are eager eaters and get nice and fat. Bigger fish like that are going to put more strain on your tanks ability to process the waste. I would expect nutrients to become an issue unless you do adequate maintenance and have good nutrient export mechanisms (oversized skimmer, algae scrubber or refugium or similar).

As far as order, put your timid fish in first (fire fish, bangai cardinals, blenny, mandarin). I would then probably add the chromis and clowns next. I'm not familiar with the royal gramma, so I don't know if it would need to go in the 1st group or this second group. Note, the mandarin needs established live rock/ copepods so you may want to delay adding your first group in till you get your tank properly seeded. I'd put the tangs in together but last. Blue throats can be timid when first introduced, so I might add him before the tangs and let him get established a few weeks first. So maybe a separate single addition or put him in with the chromis and clowns.

Hope that helps.

Helps a lot, ty!

 

[sfin52]

Royal Gramma is shy fish but will adjust quick. I recommend adding close to first. Mine took about a month to fully adjust and now he's out and about.

 

[Reefin Ryan]

the blenny might be aggressive to the goby and possibly the mandarin and maybe even the firefish. in a tank that size it should be ok and I would do it if it was my tank but I would personally add the blenny after the other fish with similar body profiles and that dwell towards the bottom.

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

the blenny might be aggressive to the goby and possibly the mandarin and maybe even the firefish. in a tank that size it should be ok and I would do it if it was my tank but I would personally add the blenny after the other fish with similar body profiles and that dwell towards the bottom.

Ohh, good to know. Ty!

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

Royal Gramma is shy fish but will adjust quick. I recommend adding close to first. Mine took about a month to fully adjust and now he's out and about.

Great, i'll do that. When Is adjusted Is an active fish?

 

[Reefin Ryan]

Great, i'll do that. When Is adjusted Is an active fish?

He means They can hide in the rocks a lot at first and you might not see it much at first. Once it feels comfortable it will come out more and you should see it plenty. They are really cool fish. Beautiful to look at and they do this thing where they swim upside down when they go into a cave or come out of one. They are like little underwater ninjas. Awesome fish!

 

[Jmas4]

Welcome to reef2reef! Your english is better than some native speakers lol.
I would only get 2 cardinals and 1 chromis. When a pair of cardinals form, they will bully the third. Unless a very large school, chromis have a tendency to pick each other of until there is only 1. A blue tang can grow big and require space. I don't think a 150cm or 5 foot tank can house it. A trigger may work in a tank that size if given enough swiming space. Everything else seems fine.

Good luck and Happy Reefing

 

[PatW]

I would recommend no trigger or blue tang in that size of tank. A yellow tang and a bristletooth tang should do fine. Green chromis tend to murder each other. I have had much better luck with blue chromis.

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

Welcome to reef2reef! Your english is better than some native speakers lol.
I would only get 2 cardinals and 1 chromis. When a pair of cardinals form, they will bully the third. Unless a very large school, chromis have a tendency to pick each other of until there is only 1. A blue tang can grow big and require space. I don't think a 150cm or 5 foot tank can house it. A trigger may work in a tank that size if given enough swiming space. Everything else seems fine.

Good luck and Happy Reefing

Thanks! So, i'll need to get a paired couple of Cardinals. Should i get an already paired couple, or a male and female and hope for the best?
Also, why only 1 chromis?
If i don't get the blue Tang, you think a second trigger would be ok? (Paired with the first one)

 

[NachoCocodrilo]

I would recommend no trigger or blue tang in that size of tank. A yellow tang and a bristletooth tang should do fine. Green chromis tend to murder each other. I have had much better luck with blue chromis.

Oh, thats sad ,I expected that my tank wasn't big enough for the Tang, but i really wanted a trigger.

 

[Thibaud]

Hey guys,
I have a 35gal tank with plenty of live rock, a sandbed and a 10gal sump w good skimmer (been running for half a year now).
Right now i have a gramma loreto and a salarias, they are doing great.
I am planning to add 2 ocellaris clownfish and a fire red shrimp.
Does this sound good?
I'd like one more fish but i think it might be overkill, what are you're thoughts?
(i do weekly whater changes of around 7procent)
Sorry for my bad english and thanks a lot.