SUMP OVERFLOWED

[jose hernandez]

my sump overflowed inside water was comin out from the bottom i have red sea reefer 750xxl it has the brace in the middle do i need to take out the sump to dry everything in the inside and being that it has that brace would that effect the tank once i take it off scared it will sag scared any help will be appreciated

 

[TriggerFinger]

Oh no, terrible thing to wake up to. I would want everything out of the stand so the water can be cleaned up and dried. You won’t know if the stand is damaged until you get the sump out. Is the leak from the display or the sump? I’m guessing the tank after reading your post again. If so, start draining the tank into brutes or Rubbermaid’s if you have them.

 

[jose hernandez]

dont think the stand would be damaged the sump has a foam linning underneath so im assuming it soaked up most the water empty the tank?

 

[TriggerFinger]

Where is the water coming from? Your post reads like the tank is leaking and overflowed the sump

 

[jose hernandez]

from the sump i never put a check valve i had a seperate pump in the main display behind the rocks for my uv im figuring thats what made it overflow

 

[TriggerFinger]

I misunderstood, sorry about that. Personally, I would definitely remove everything from inside the stand so I could clean up the water and then let it all dry out. I have no way of knowing if your stand would be damaged, you will have to inspect it. Water not getting cleaned up and left to sit in/under the stand will definitely damage the stand and maybe your flooring underneath. Do you have any pictures?

 

[jose hernandez]

my concern would be the brace thats in the middle if i take it out what can happen in the near future being the tank has been set up for the past couple of months its a rimless tank with 3/4 ' thick glass as far as my floors they are concrete not worried about the floor

 

[TriggerFinger]

I wouldnt move the middle brace. Can you post pictures of the sump area? Maybe someone else has another solution

 

[4tanks]

If you have some 4x2 wood around make a lever like the terrible pictrue and get somebody to jus put a little down pressure where the arrow is whilst you take out the brace out and replace it this kind of lever takes a lot of weight so only put small pressure on don't try to lift the tank

 

[madweazl]

Do you have to remove the brace to take the sump out?

 

[ScottB]

This is a difficult one. The stand material has a coating that will protect it. Unless there are unprotected cuts, it SHOULD be fine. I have had a couple Red Seas and trying to remember exactly where the cam-lock holes are. If you dig up the assembly instructions online, look closely at them. Determine whether or not any of them would have gotten wet.

You are correct about the foam lining. It is waterproof, but unless you siliconed the joints it might not be completely waterproof.

If you determine something likely got wet, it is still not the end of the world IMO, and it will have to be your decision. You could call in a service ticket to Red Sea and get their thoughts. If you decide to remove the sump...

As to removing the brace, it won't be hard to determine whether or not the brace is bearing weight. If you can remove it without a lever @4tanks depicted, it is a piece of cake, no worries. If it is bearing weight, again, I would talk to Red Sea.

 

[4tanks]

I just want to point out I was not saying to lift the tank definate no no its was just a way to take some weight whilst the sump was removed and brace put back in

 

[jose hernandez]

it overflowed towards the back of the sump i did not see any water on the sides when it happened and i do not see any now inside the cabinet figuring it all when towards the back but still a little scared for the near future and taking out the brace has me worried as well i will contact red sea but will probably get no answer till atleast the middle of the week do not want to wait scared as hell dont know what to do

 

[jose hernandez]

tank is new as far as cuts i did not modify the stand left everything original only change the return pipe

 

[Dom]

I'm not familiar with Red Sea stands. But I understand they are made of particle board. If so, particle board is like a sponge where absorbing moisture is concerned.

Personally, I'd break down the system and give the stand a good inspection. Undetected water damage could lead to a disaster in the future.

 

[jose hernandez]

Here’s a pic as far as the Water it overflowed through The back of the sump did not seap in to the other compartment Like I mentioned no visible water while this happened or after on the sides

 

[ScottB]

It is my OPINION that there are no IMMEDIATE concerns about the structural integrity of the stand.

The cam-lock holes themselves don't bear much if any weight once you have the stand upright. They are there so you can put it all together and flip it right side up.

In the long term, sufficient water seepage inside the cuts/holes will cause the MDF to weaken. The result being that once the stand is taken apart, you will likely have to junk it.

No need to worry near term. Look, all stands are meant to deal with salt creep. Salt creep holds moisture in a humid environment forever. Any sump with a skimmer in it has salt creeps inside it. But they don't fall apart. Enough moisture over a long enough period (years) just means you won't likely be moving it and putting it back together.


A properly leveled tank and stand have virtually no lateral load to bear once set up.

 

[jose hernandez]

im trying to find the best available options my thing is if i drain the tank take out the sump let it dry for a day or 2 put it back dont think it will be 100% whatever water got soaked up by the foam will eventually dry out by leaving it out but the water that got through will likely be in the cams so not sure what to do im going crazy im thinking long term

 

[jose hernandez]

i have corals and fish as well as the live rock so thats my other problem

 

[SMSREEF]

How much water did you need to mop up?

It seems like you could get a fan or hairdryer and get some air movement underneath to dry it out. There looks to be a space between the bottom and the floor that the air can get under.

I’m not sure I would risk taking out center brace witthout emptying the tank.

what if you leave the tank full, empty the sump and just lift it up onto a couple pieces of wood to get air underneath for a while.
but if not much water was on the floor, I don’t think moving sump is needed.