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Just venting....

6 months in and made it through a cyano outbreak with water changes every three days and vacuuming out. Now have the worst green algae possible.

I've kept up water changes and scrubbing rocks every week and constant water changes. Reduced lighting schedule reduced feeding and just doesn't seem to be going away after month three of this.

Hanging in with first tank but am getting frustrated to no end in sight
 
Just venting....

6 months in and made it through a cyano outbreak with water changes every three days and vacuuming out. Now have the worst green algae possible.

I've kept up water changes and scrubbing rocks every week and constant water changes. Reduced lighting schedule reduced feeding and just doesn't seem to be going away after month three of this.

Hanging in with first tank but am getting frustrated to no end in sight


That sucks. :(

Any ideas where your algae is coming from?
 
That sucks. :(

Any ideas where your algae is coming from?
Not sure. Bioload possibly. 2 clown and 2 chromis, diamond goby and lawnmower blenny with 1 fireshrimp 2 cleaner shrimp and 1 pistol with a hermit crab and an emerald crab and various snails.

Only thing I can think of. Probably just still new tank syndrome but feels like I am spending all my time cleaning and doing water changes.

I have a small 10 gallon with two clown and a shrimp and a couple snails and the thing has been spotless for 4 months.
 
Not sure. Bioload possibly. 2 clown and 2 chromis, diamond goby and lawnmower blenny with 1 fireshrimp 2 cleaner shrimp and 1 pistol with a hermit crab and an emerald crab and various snails.

Only thing I can think of. Probably just still new tank syndrome but feels like I am spending all my time cleaning and doing water changes.

I have a small 10 gallon with two clown and a shrimp and a couple snails and the thing has been spotless for 4 months.

Well, hang in there. :) It’s weird how two reefs can be so different
 
Green is good. Unless it is hair algae and uncontrollable :).

My tank is going on 8 months (I think) and is still covered in green. Started from dry rock so I am not surprised. CUC is all you need.

Banded Trochus snail.. by far my favorite.
 
I had a big hair algae problem for a while but the combination of Mexican Turbos, a Yellow Tang and a Coral Beauty Dwarf Angel has wiped it out. On the bright side I am getting more Coralline algae growth.

 
Hang in there! I was exactly where you are not too long ago. I started debating if it is worth it. It is. Stick around the forums, read and ask and you will get through it. It does wear on your patience but if you follow the good advice here you will make out fine.
 
+1 on the turbos, mine mowed down my GHA in no time and it was 1"+ in some spots. Now obviously each snail is different but it's definitely worth a shot.
 
Clean up crew will definitely help. Turbos, trocus, blue leg hermits, and emerald crabs will eat it. With the snails sometimes you have to put them where you want them to clean. Also manually pull it out by hand as much as you can and then scrub with a toothbrush will go a long way.
 
Clean up crew will definitely help. Turbos, trocus, blue leg hermits, and emerald crabs will eat it. With the snails sometimes you have to put them where you want them to clean. Also manually pull it out by hand as much as you can and then scrub with a toothbrush will go a long way.
Hermits and emerald and lots of snails and toothbrush every few days with water changes and clean eberything. Lowered lights and feeding schedule and just sticking it out.

Did the same with cyano at about month 3 to 5 so this is just next step to mature tank.
 
Can you tell us more about your set up? How many gallons? How long have you cycled?

You’re doing water changes every 3 days?! How much are you changing? What is your water source?

Excessive water changes can strip your tank of beneficial bacteria sometimes, so you’re not actually letting your tank cycle, if this is a new set up.
 
Can you tell us more about your set up? How many gallons? How long have you cycled?

You’re doing water changes every 3 days?! How much are you changing? What is your water source?

Excessive water changes can strip your tank of beneficial bacteria sometimes, so you’re not actually letting your tank cycle, if this is a new set up.
Biocube 32. Cycled properly for first two months then slowly added fish. Have been stocked for 5 months. Using rodi water mixed to 1.26 salinity and keep temp at 78. Running 2 extra heads for circulation. Ammonia and nitrite zero and nitrates are always registering but not off the charts. Prob around 10 to 20 ppm.

Running a skimmer in chamber one which then goes through filter floss the standard filter that comes with bio cube and media basket has chemi pure and ceramic pellets and a UV filter on return pump. Ato to keep water level and lights are modertely set. Forget scheduke but results in 8 hours on with sunset sunrise and moon etc.

Usually do a 4 to 5 gallon water change weekly but stepped up to two times a week when cleaning out algae. Also vacuumr sand and clean all surfaces. Scrape algae off with toothbrush usually but have pulled rock and done once over.
 
Hmm. I would stop vacuuming the sand bed weekly. Vacuum the sand bed once a month, and only half the sand bed. The last time I had a crazy outbreak of Dino and then algae, I was vacuuming my sand bed aggressively.

I’d also go back to weekly changes rather than twice a week.

As for dealing with the hair algae, manual removal, or maybe pull out rocks and give them a good scrub, followed with a hydrogen peroxide squirt. Let it bubble up for a minute, rinse with some tank water (I’d do this when you’re doing a water change, rinse with the changed water) and return to your tank. Additionally you can consider Flucanozole.
 
Hey Jeff,

Hang in there... everything in this hobby takes an incredible amount of patience, and if you want to get good, lots of time to research. I did want to state a few things that may put your mind at ease and maybe give you a few steps to take moving forward.

First, if your tank is only 6 months, it is still very young and can go through cycles of uglies. Cyano outbreak you had, is proof. That being said, I think you should let the tank do its thing and mature some more. Your maintenance schedule seems right (the once a week one). Go back to that and let the tank settle in. Increase some flow if you can and leave the sandbed alone for now. Occasionally stir it up a bit, but not too much.

Second, tanks dont like change. Make small changes and fiddle with it as little as possible. You'll be surprised how much better things do. Obviously keep up with your dosing, RO top off, water changes, and algae cleaning. But otherwise let it do its thing.

Third, let nature clean the tank. Stock a lot of CUC (Clean up Crew), overstock it for now with those that will eat the GHA. They'll put a dent into it a lot better than you can ever do.

Fourth, although you are reading acceptable levels of Nitrate, thats because the GHA is absorbing a lot of it. If the GHA was gone, you would likely see a much higher level of that. So you likely have a nutrient problem. Most likely culprit is overfeeding. Try and reduce the feeding a bit, and if you are feeding any coral food, dont.

Fifth, check for Phosphates. That could be a major culprit in nuisance algae too. GFO and a little carbon can help you there.

Sixth, look into a bacterial culture boost. It seems to me its possible that while doing frequent water changes to get rid of Cyano, you may have destabilized the nitrifiying bacteria cultures. In the alternative, you can ask for a small cup of sand from a well established tank (that you trust to be pest and disease free) and put that in your tank, to help seed it with more types of bacteria. Then do your normal weekly upkeep and let the culture establish. You're basically doing a new cycle, potentially when you did too many water changes.

Finally, and this is a completely personal opinion, so take it for what its worth. I dont like Chemi Pure. Anytime I would use it in any of my tanks, it always made coral and inverts react oddly to it. It has a tendency to strip things fast and then not do too much after. Go into the chem section of this forum and read up about what Randy has to say about how accurate the company's claims may be. Instead, get two separate media baggies and run GFO (my fave is RowaPhos) and some good quality carbon in separate bags. Then you can change each of the media as needed and have much better control.

Sorry for the long butt post, but I hope any of this will be useful to you.
 
Hmm. I would stop vacuuming the sand bed weekly. Vacuum the sand bed once a month, and only half the sand bed. The last time I had a crazy outbreak of Dino and then algae, I was vacuuming my sand bed aggressively.

I’d also go back to weekly changes rather than twice a week.

As for dealing with the hair algae, manual removal, or maybe pull out rocks and give them a good scrub, followed with a hydrogen peroxide squirt. Let it bubble up for a minute, rinse with some tank water (I’d do this when you’re doing a water change, rinse with the changed water) and return to your tank. Additionally you can consider Flucanozole.
Appreciate you taking the time to respond and will give it a shot
 
Hey Jeff,

Hang in there... everything in this hobby takes an incredible amount of patience, and if you want to get good, lots of time to research. I did want to state a few things that may put your mind at ease and maybe give you a few steps to take moving forward.

First, if your tank is only 6 months, it is still very young and can go through cycles of uglies. Cyano outbreak you had, is proof. That being said, I think you should let the tank do its thing and mature some more. Your maintenance schedule seems right (the once a week one). Go back to that and let the tank settle in. Increase some flow if you can and leave the sandbed alone for now. Occasionally stir it up a bit, but not too much.

Second, tanks dont like change. Make small changes and fiddle with it as little as possible. You'll be surprised how much better things do. Obviously keep up with your dosing, RO top off, water changes, and algae cleaning. But otherwise let it do its thing.

Third, let nature clean the tank. Stock a lot of CUC (Clean up Crew), overstock it for now with those that will eat the GHA. They'll put a dent into it a lot better than you can ever do.

Fourth, although you are reading acceptable levels of Nitrate, thats because the GHA is absorbing a lot of it. If the GHA was gone, you would likely see a much higher level of that. So you likely have a nutrient problem. Most likely culprit is overfeeding. Try and reduce the feeding a bit, and if you are feeding any coral food, dont.

Fifth, check for Phosphates. That could be a major culprit in nuisance algae too. GFO and a little carbon can help you there.

Sixth, look into a bacterial culture boost. It seems to me its possible that while doing frequent water changes to get rid of Cyano, you may have destabilized the nitrifiying bacteria cultures. In the alternative, you can ask for a small cup of sand from a well established tank (that you trust to be pest and disease free) and put that in your tank, to help seed it with more types of bacteria. Then do your normal weekly upkeep and let the culture establish. You're basically doing a new cycle, potentially when you did too many water changes.

Finally, and this is a completely personal opinion, so take it for what its worth. I dont like Chemi Pure. Anytime I would use it in any of my tanks, it always made coral and inverts react oddly to it. It has a tendency to strip things fast and then not do too much after. Go into the chem section of this forum and read up about what Randy has to say about how accurate the company's claims may be. Instead, get two separate media baggies and run GFO (my fave is RowaPhos) and some good quality carbon in separate bags. Then you can change each of the media as needed and have much better control.

Sorry for the long *** post, but I hope any of this will be useful to you.
Great suggestions all around and it is people on this forum that keep interested in this hobby
 

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