Surprise Phone Call... All the fish are dead

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Last week (24 July, 2018) I received a phone call from my wife asking if I had recently changed anything in my tank. I responded with no... and WHY? Her response was that ALL of the fish were dead, the majority were floating at the surface, the coral looked terrible and were either laying over or weren't open, and the water was very "murky". I rushed home to find that she was 100% correct. ALL of the fish were dead!

OK, terrible experience!!! BUT WHY? What had happened to kill my fish?

Easter weekend I had to travel out of town for business. The family went with me, so that meant I needed an automated fish feeder. I purchased an Eheim fish feeder, programmed it, set it to feed the amount I felt necessary, loaded a small amount for the week, and it worked great. It worked so great that the next trip I used it again with success. With two successful weeks of use, I thought it may help with my busy schedule. I began to use it to feed on a regular cycle. I'd load a set amount, set it, then refill as needed. Somewhere around July 18th or so, I decided to fill it completely and let it run.

Due to a busy weekend schedule, I don't recall checking the tank (it's in the basement) July 21/22. I'd planned to do a water change on July 23, but was busy again and didn't check the tank. When I got home on July 24, I found an empty feeder. Somehow all of the food had emptied into the tank. There was nasty sludge all over the bottom where food had been dumped and was breaking down.

After removing the dead fish and trying to get as much sludge out as possible, I wanted to check the water parameters. The ammonia level was off the chart, nitrates were only around 15, and phosphates were off the chart as well. I added Seachem Safe at the recommended 4x amount to lockup the ammonia. I performed a 50% water change, checked the levels afterwards, and still the same story... The ammonia level was off the chart, nitrates were around 15, and phosphates were off the chart.

It is now nine days later. After several water changes and a lot of Safe added to the water, the ammonia level is still not readable. It is still off the chart. With the exception of some zoas and palythoas that are still closed up, the coral is about all dead or melted at this point and I'm at a total loss (that's why I can't post pictures as I'm heart broken).

Is it best to just pull all of the rock and pressure wash it, then put it in a large barrel/can to cure for six to eight weeks, and drain and wipe out the tank?

All thoughts and suggestions are welcomed!
 
What is the water volume in your system? I use the same autofeeder, but only maybe 10% full, but i'm wondering if I need to worry about this.
 
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I'd treat this just as a tank crash. Water changes. See what you've got in 6 weeks.
 
I'd never trust an auto feeder for just this reason. I'm sorry for your losses and don't know what to say. :(:(
 
I just recently did the exact same thing - letting it help feed while I'm still in town and filled it up. I'm going to empty it back down to a small amount this evening as soon as I get home.

Very sorry to hear this happened to you and about you losing your tank. You posting it may very well have saved a few of the rest of us from a similar experience. Thanks for that.
 
I will never trust an auto feeder other than the one I made for my NPS system. I'm so sorry for your losses, that's horrible. Continue performing large water changes and vac as much out of the sand as possible. It will eventually stabilize again. Again I'm so sorry, keep us updated.
 
OMG.... I’m sooooo sorry. I was talking to an lfs guy today about an apex controller because I’m terrified of something like this. I know the apex can’t keep it from happening but the probes might warn me of impending doom. Please let us know how things go. I’ll follow along.

Again... I’m sorry this happened...

Elizabeth
 
:( Sorry for your loss. I vote a +1 to @Katrina71 's suggestion about water changes till its good and see whats left. Any survivors will give you a sense of satisfaction down the road when they're beautiful once again, and you'll know that you truly did all you could.
 
I'd treat this just as a tank crash. Water changes. See what you've got in 6 weeks.

My fear is that with leathers melting, the lps gone now, and the other softies continuing to shrivel and shrink, I’m not going to outpace the ammonia with water changes.
 
I'd never trust an auto feeder for just this reason. I'm sorry for your losses and don't know what to say. :(:(

I hadn’t experienced any issues, but Murphy walked in...

I appreciate your thoughts, but that’s part of the hobby. I’ve been at it for 20 years and it IS gut wrenching still, but it is ever a learning process.
 
I just recently did the exact same thing - letting it help feed while I'm still in town and filled it up. I'm going to empty it back down to a small amount this evening as soon as I get home.

Very sorry to hear this happened to you and about you losing your tank. You posting it may very well have saved a few of the rest of us from a similar experience. Thanks for that.

First time I’d filled it up. I was always worried about what if. I’m guessing the extra pressure/weight of the food pushed the door back somehow. I wouldn’t have thought it could happen, but it’s evident my worries were real.

If my loss can help prevent another from having the same problem, then I’m glad I was able to post it.
 
I will never trust an auto feeder other than the one I made for my NPS system. I'm so sorry for your losses, that's horrible. Continue performing large water changes and vac as much out of the sand as possible. It will eventually stabilize again. Again I'm so sorry, keep us updated.

With the continuing die off and melting, I’m afraid I’m battling something I can’t get ahead of with water changes. If I was even seeing some positive results I wouldn’t hesitate, but it’s getting worse everyday unfortunately.
 
OMG.... I’m sooooo sorry. I was talking to an lfs guy today about an apex controller because I’m terrified of something like this. I know the apex can’t keep it from happening but the probes might warn me of impending doom. Please let us know how things go. I’ll follow along.

Again... I’m sorry this happened...

Elizabeth

Outside of a reboot, I’m thinking there won’t be much positive with the current situation. I’ve never seen as much ammonia indicated on a test kit.
 
:( Sorry for your loss. I vote a +1 to @Katrina71 's suggestion about water changes till its good and see whats left. Any survivors will give you a sense of satisfaction down the road when they're beautiful once again, and you'll know that you truly did all you could.

I like the positive attitude and trying to ride it out, but I’m not sure I’ll have anything left after this weekend. With the current water changes and vacuuming, I’m not seeing any positive results at all. The ammonia tests are continually off the chart.
 

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