Suspected Flukes - Prazi in DT questions

[willisd]

So I have a reefer xxl that is a 160 + 40 gallon sump. I have had a very established group of fish for the past 3 or so years and recently introduced two leopard wrasses who had supposedly been quarantined.

well fast forward 4-6 weeks from their introduction and one of the wrasses is doing great but the other has emerged but is now very reclusive and had a suppressed appetite. She looks to be circling the drain but I am able to get her to eat some.

the issue I see now is that it appears that my flame angel has something white/brown flecked in its gills and I have witnessed it doing some degree of flashing in the past week. Nothing common or consistent but it is strange whenever I see it. It is also acting more reclusive and less aggressive, which in turn has caused my royal gramma to come out more (which is what clued me in)

I am worried now that I have flukes due to the introduction of some of these new fish or possibly coral. I’m a real idiot for not QTing but we are where we are and I do not have the ability to QT my entire DT. Here is list of inhabitants:

10+” hippo tang
9” foxface
6” yellow tang
5” long nose hawk
4” common leopard wrasse
4” blue star leopard
3” spotted manderain
3” clownfish x 2
3” royal gramma

so from my reading thus far the treatment shouldn’t kill any of my coral as I do not have any tube worms but I do have some RBTAs and a decent number of bristle worms.

I realize that likely a freshwater dip should be used to confirm the flukes but I am unable to catch the flame angel to do this, and with the behavior it is exhibiting along with the other wrasse I am strongly considering a prazi treatment to address the issue before it becomes a full blown outbreak.

A couple questions:

Would performing a treatment likely put the wrasses and possibly RBTAs in risk, and am I acting too proactively without full confirmation of flukes?

additionally with the sensitivity of the wrasses should I treat with a system volume of 160 and use carbon to remove 24 hours following treatment?

finally should I be looking at 3 doses spaced 9 days apart with a 25% water change before the second and third doses?

I am furious with myself for allowing this to happen and do not want to risk loosing many of my 10+ year old fish. I will try to get a better photo of the flame angel but I am attaching the best I could get along with the pathetic wrasse and my whole tank.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Try to get some closer, white light pics of the angel to confirm. Definitely try to catch it for a fw dip if possible.
Prazi can be treated to the dt, but it is safest in a qt. Make sure you have good oxygenation when dosing.
To my knowledge, there is no problem with wrasses and prazi but I’ll call the rest of the #fishmedic team to confirm.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

The leopard wrasse has a really thin nape, so it has something else going on, possibly in conjunction with the flukes.
The tank should handle Prazipro well enough as long as you increase aeration in the main tank itself.
Jay

 

[willisd]

If it’s not really eating do I stand much of a chance treating it for other maladies at this stage?

 

[willisd]

Double post

 

[Sharkbait19]

Many things can still be treated. The only tough medications would be ones that have to be taken orally. Fish that aren’t eating will be weaker though and are going to fare worse with infections.

 

[willisd]

This is a bit of a cross post from mg original wrasse post elsewhere but I think what I am looking at is the flame angels Gil spike. I found this photo on reef central that shows a similar spike on another flame

Again not my photo, but here is a still I was able to grab from a video so it is only decent quality but better than the previous picture

As far as the wrasse goes I made the mistake of purchasing an online pre quarantined and now know my mistake not being able to first observe it. I am wondering if it didn’t eat enough medicated food in whatever QT process that it still has internal parasites.

I threw the kitchen sink at it with fish eggs, tons of pods, live brine, mysis, mixed offerings you name it and garlic mysis in tiny pieces is all I can get it to take and not vigorously like the other leopard had been.

im worried what to do if keeping it in the tank risks him dying under the sand and spreading parasites or even dying out in the open and contaminating the other residents.

 

[Spare time]

It will not harm wrasses or bubble tips. It will not kill bristle worms