Swallowtail not swimming quite right.

[Stang67]

It will swim horizontally but still does the left to right movements. Initially it was more of a bucking movement or bouncing. Started prazi yesterday. Will do 2 rounds. Thinking it may be a neuro issue tho. Any thoughts?
Fish recieved Friday. Video is today. It has been picking at back glass either pods or algae.

 

[vetteguy53081]

This fish is becoming moribund in which it may or may not recover and looks quite thin also.
How did you acclimate fish and for how long?
I assume it has not eaten?

You can provide air stone but may not help. Prazi which addresses flukes and worms should be applied initially known as an interval for 8 days, do a water change and do one more 8 day dose interval
Use airstone with prazi as it does reduce both oxygen and appetite. Not sure if prazi will offer any changes,,,,, unfortunately to say

 

[Stang67]

This fish is becoming moribund in which it may or may not recover and looks quite thin also.
How did you acclimate fish and for how long?
I assume it has not eaten?

You can provide air stone but may not help. Prazi which addresses flukes and worms should be applied initially known as an interval for 8 days, do a water change and do one more 8 day dose interval
Use airstone with prazi as it does reduce both oxygen and appetite. Not sure if prazi will offer any changes,,,,, unfortunately to say

Googling moribund. Acclimated via water transfer 1/2 c every 10 min. For about 2 hrs while bag was floating. It just ate quite a bit of mysis. Also swimming more horizontal then vertical this afternoon.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Googling moribund. Acclimated via water transfer 1/2 c every 10 min. For about 2 hrs while bag was floating. It just ate quite a bit of mysis. Also swimming more horizontal then vertical this afternoon.

Great to hear on improved swimming and eating. I dont believe this is a fluke related occurence as may be stress from shipping. Assuming you got is Friday as a shipped fish, note that fish in shipped bags produce carbon dioxide and ammonia. The carbon dioxide lowers the pH of the water in the bag, That in turn makes the ammonia non-toxic to the fish. When you acclimate them, if not done just right, you drive off the carbon dioxide faster than you are diluting the ammonia. That raises the pH of the water in the bag, and that in turn, makes the residual ammonia very toxic to the fish. Sometimes, the fish will die right in the bag

 

[Stang67]

Great to hear on improved swimming and eating. I dont believe this is a fluke related occurence as may be stress from shipping. Assuming you got is Friday as a shipped fish, note that fish in shipped bags produce carbon dioxide and ammonia. The carbon dioxide lowers the pH of the water in the bag, That in turn makes the ammonia non-toxic to the fish. When you acclimate them, if not done just right, you drive off the carbon dioxide faster than you are diluting the ammonia. That raises the pH of the water in the bag, and that in turn, makes the residual ammonia very toxic to the fish. Sometimes, the fish will die right in the bag

Yup got it.thanks will continue to observe.

 

[Stang67]

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

The fish still feeding means it isn't moribund. In the first video, the fish is behaving as if it is negatively buoyant, constantly swimming to stay upright. The second video isn't quite as clear, but I still think that is the issue.

Swim bladder issues are SUPER common in newly acquired Genicanthus angelfish. Usually, they are positively buoyant, but if the swim bladder ruptures, they become negatively buoyant.

There is no treatment for this, but a number of these fish heal on their own.

The true test is to check the fish (carefully, so that y9ou don't frighten it) as night with the lights off....if it is resting on the bottom, that is what is wrong here. Another test is to watch the fish at any time if it stops sculling its tail, it sinks, that shows the same thing.

Jay

 

[Stang67]

The fish still feeding means it isn't moribund. In the first video, the fish is behaving as if it is negatively buoyant, constantly swimming to stay upright. The second video isn't quite as clear, but I still think that is the issue.

Swim bladder issues are SUPER common in newly acquired Genicanthus angelfish. Usually, they are positively buoyant, but if the swim bladder ruptures, they become negatively buoyant.

There is no treatment for this, but a number of these fish heal on their own.

The true test is to check the fish (carefully, so that y9ou don't frighten it) as night with the lights off....if it is resting on the bottom, that is what is wrong here. Another test is to watch the fish at any time if it stops sculling its tail, it sinks, that shows the same thing.

Jay

Will check on him tonight thanks!