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Anyone know what’s wrong with this little guy? Had him about 2 weeks, if I go near he does swim away …


Update:: found one of my little clowns dead! Not sure why
 
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Anyone know what’s wrong with this little guy? Had him about 2 weeks, if I go near he does swim away …


Update:: found one of my little clowns dead! Not sure why
That’s not a swim bladder issue, the fish is moribund.
See how it is breathing fast and deeply? That is a sign of either water quality issues or a systemic disease. The small clown dying could be related.
Can you post your water parameters?
Jay
 
That’s not a swim bladder issue, the fish is moribund.
See how it is breathing fast and deeply? That is a sign of either water quality issues or a systemic disease. The small clown dying could be related.
Can you post your water parameters?
Jay
Ph is LOW at least lower than the 7.4 on the api test kit

Ammonia 0

nitrite .25

nitrate between 5 -10
 
Ph is LOW at least lower than the 7.4 on the api test kit

Ammonia 0

nitrite .25

nitrate between 5 -10

First thing to do is confirm that you tank has good aeration (not just circulation) you need to have air bubbles breaking the surface of the tank water (a protein skimmer also does this very well). If not, you could have high carbon dioxide levels which causes a low pH and can cause the fish to breath fast.

jay
 
Hmm right now it’s really just the returns from the fx4 filter … would a rock bubbler air-rator do the trick? And maybe I’ll get some marine or proper ph to add if that doesn’t do the trick.

my take is only about 2mo old fwiw
 
You really should not have a pH that low in a new tank. Maybe your test kit isn’t working right?
One test for high carbon dioxide is to take a cup of water out of the tank, measure the pH and then aerate it well overnight. Measure the pH again the next morning. If it rises more than about 0.5 pH units, the tank has high carbon dioxide levels.
Jay
 
You really should not have a pH that low in a new tank. Maybe your test kit isn’t working right?
One test for high carbon dioxide is to take a cup of water out of the tank, measure the pH and then aerate it well overnight. Measure the pH again the next morning. If it rises more than about 0.5 pH units, the tank has high carbon dioxide levels.
Jay
Thanks, uhh how do I aerate it overnight? Some diy method?
 
Tested my ph again this am … twice and it’s 7.8 so maybe I did something wrong the other day.

where does that leave things though as to why my little fish aren’t doing good?
 
Tested my ph again this am … twice and it’s 7.8 so maybe I did something wrong the other day.

where does that leave things though as to why my little fish aren’t doing good?

I just needed to rule out low pH issues.

Is the fish in the same condition this morning? If so, that rules out velvet (the fish would be dead).
Can you contact the dealer and find out if the fish is wild caught or captive raised? If wild caught, this is something I wrote up about wild caught Banggai cardinals:


Banggai Cardinalfish Iridovirus (BCIR)
This fish was originally discovered in 1933 but then lost to science for about 60 years, when the Banggai cardinalfish (Pterapogon kauderni) was “rediscovered” and began entering the tropical fish trade. Aquarists noted how hardy the species was and that they were very easy to reproduce in captivity. A decade later, the price for wild-caught Banggai cardinalfish had decreased fivefold, but the animals were now considered very delicate, with high losses seen in newly acquired wild fish.

What was the cause of this sudden change in the apparent health of this species in captivity? Poor handling, collection with cyanide (unlikely), and bacterial disease were all suggested as possible reasons for this change. A researcher then published a study showing that the presence of an iridovirus was associated with episodes of mass mortality in newly imported cardinalfish (Weber et al. 2009). A similar virus has since been isolated from the common batfish, Platax orbicularis (Sriwanayos et al. 2013), but a corresponding high mortality in aquarium fish of that species has not been noted, perhaps because many fewer batfish are imported for the pet trade than the ever-popular Banggai cardinalfish.

Since there is no cure for this viral disease, captive-raised fish that were never exposed to wild stock, or fish that have subsequently developed immunity by surviving an infection would be the best choices for aquarists. Avoid inexpensive wild-caught Banggai Cardinalfish. Not only do they have a poor survival record, but they’re also being collected at such a high rate that wild populations are locally threatened with extinction.

Jay
 
Well I can’t find him this am which I don’t think is a good sign … the other fish seem to be fine (foxface, goby, clown )
 
Not a good sign. You don't want to stress out the other fish by tearing the tank apart looking for it, but you also don't want it to decompose in there if it has died. Try searching around for it gently.....

Jay
 

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