Switching from NoPox to ....?

Since you are going into think mode, include the flow at you thoughts. When I had cianos they only appear at very low flow areas.
 
In my experience cyano is a type of bacteria that, once it gets a foothold, can survive in very low nutrient water and takes a while to starve out. I had cyano pop up a few months ago while using vibrant and nopox even though my nutrient levels were very low. After checking lights, flow, food etc I decided to knock it out with two doses of red slime remover and it hasn't come back.
 
Matnol is the solution .
 
In my experience cyano is a type of bacteria that, once it gets a foothold, can survive in very low nutrient water and takes a while to starve out. I had cyano pop up a few months ago while using vibrant and nopox even though my nutrient levels were very low. After checking lights, flow, food etc I decided to knock it out with two doses of red slime remover and it hasn't come back.
I tried biopellets and it created a huge cyano bloom. Switched to NoPOX and increased the maintenance (vacuuming the barebottom twice a week). It went away in about 6 weeks and hasn't returned since.
 
I'm just afraid that the vodka/vinegar mix is too much like NOpox and continue to feed the cyano that is currently present. Do you think the Microbacter7 would replace what I have now and starve the cyano? Gotta love the hobby! Always good for thought.
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Adding different bacteria can be a fine plan. :)
 
i have 2 cents. i used to use nopox and stopped for the same reason you did, at the cyano that used to come with using it. I would stop using no pox, treat the tank with stuff like chemiclean to get rid of it, and as soon as I started no pox again, it would come back. mostly on the overflow box to start. patches of it. anyway, I stopped dosing and went back to growing chaeto. i'm having my own difficulties with chaeto and chaeto reactors, but the point of it is that I was adding a lot of iron to my 150 gal system to help the chaeto, and if I stopped or lessen the dose of iron, I would see the cyano or what I believe was cyano again in the same spots.... hmmmm.. I put more iron in and it goes away in a couple of days.... maybe give this a try before switching from no pox... can't hurt, you really can't over dose iron, the excess just goes away... I'm currently dosing 30 ml a day of iron into my system...I make the iron solution my self by mixing 1 tablet of feron iron pill to 25ml of r/o water. I actually buy a bottle of the pills on amazon or at the pharmacy and put 4 pills in a 100ml of ro water, wait overnight, then dump the whole thing into my dosing container, which is set to 30 ml per day.

like I said I am having issues growing chaeto and was thinking of going back to no pox since I found this connection, just to see it it actually will keep the cyano away, if so then the no pox will stay in use. I'll wait on either you answer if you choose to try this or to finish trying to grow chaeto....
 
I tried biopellets and it created a huge cyano bloom. Switched to NoPOX and increased the maintenance (vacuuming the barebottom twice a week). It went away in about 6 weeks and hasn't returned since.
I have sand in all of my tanks so I can vacuum a lot but even with vacuuming the top layer out the cyano returned. I think my main issue though was a large group of red kelp that died off and released nutrients.
 
I never could grow chaeto. I was dosing nopox, and it was getting expensive with 245g system. I wound up getting a really thick type of slime that was like the thickest snot you have ever blown out your nose or coughed up. it took about a month to get rid of, and two rounds of chemiclean, as well as cleaning the sump, skimmer, and sock filter three times a day. If I ever use nopox again, it will be very little. I got a 5000k br30 bulb from home depot. Its similar to the par38 but smaller. I bought a sandwich bag of chaeto and in a month, I have enough to fill a gallon bag or more. Phosphate is lower than I ever got with nopox.
 
I never could grow chaeto. I was dosing nopox, and it was getting expensive with 245g system. I wound up getting a really thick type of slime that was like the thickest snot you have ever blown out your nose or coughed up. it took about a month to get rid of, and two rounds of chemiclean, as well as cleaning the sump, skimmer, and sock filter three times a day. If I ever use nopox again, it will be very little. I got a 5000k br30 bulb from home depot. Its similar to the par38 but smaller. I bought a sandwich bag of chaeto and in a month, I have enough to fill a gallon bag or more. Phosphate is lower than I ever got with nopox.

Sounds like dinos.
 
Sounds like dinos.

Are dinos this thick? The first pic is a one cup measuring cup. The second pic is some hanging and clumped on a toothbrush I use to clean things with.

The color in the pic is very close to what it is really like. It may be just a slight bit more pink in person. It seemed to not really grow much in the display. It liked the sump more, and especially the overflow box. I'd have tons of stringy stuff floating around that was the parts I would have in the display. I don't know if it was growing in the sump and just some strings would get sucked up by the return pump or if it was growing in the display and then it would gather in clumps in the sump. I had to clean three times a day to help get rid of it.


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Are dinos this thick? The first pic is a one cup measuring cup. The second pic is some hanging and clumped on a toothbrush I use to clean things with.

The color in the pic is very close to what it is really like. It may be just a slight bit more pink in person. It seemed to not really grow much in the display. It liked the sump more, and especially the overflow box. I'd have tons of stringy stuff floating around that was the parts I would have in the display. I don't know if it was growing in the sump and just some strings would get sucked up by the return pump or if it was growing in the display and then it would gather in clumps in the sump. I had to clean three times a day to help get rid of it.


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