Tail fin switched from yellow to black?

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I know my tang is hurt but I don’t know why but I think I figured it out! Yesterday or the say before when he was fine his tail was yellow. Now his tail is black and he’s not using it. Does that mean his tail died? If so then what?

same lighting bro

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I know my tang is hurt but I don’t know why but I think I figured it out! Yesterday or the say before when he was fine his tail was yellow. Now his tail is black and he’s not using it. Does that mean his tail died? If so then what?

same lighting bro

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can you get a video of it swimming? If so, you may need to post to youtube (just mark it as "unlisted" and then post a link here.

Tangs in a small QT tank may not use their tail to move. As for the color, I have not seen that before, so will get some additional help for ya.

#fishmedic
 
previous thread about this fish.

 
can you get a video of it swimming? If so, you may need to post to youtube (just mark it as "unlisted" and then post a link here.

Tangs in a small QT tank may not use their tail to move. As for the color, I have not seen that before, so will get some additional help for ya.

#fishmedic
He doesn’t really swimming is the thing. Even when I touch him. When he does swim it’s only a few inch which he swims backwards using his dorsal fin and the one parallel to that.
 
Fish looks okay to me. Is it just morning coloration? Tangs mostly swim with pectoral fins, unless they need a burst of speed.
 
previous thread about this fish.

Yeah I know he’s doing horrible. I just wanna help. My question are really easily answered by google.
 
As @nereefpat said - tangs can do this - with stress, lighting, time of day, etc (change coloration) - and to me its not just the 'tail' thats darker - its the entire coloration of the fish itself.

Having said that - to answer you question - I do not believe its 'tail died'. To me it looks like a fish thats in too small of a QT tank perhaps? But lets pretend its tail is paralyzed or died, etc - to me it looks like a systemic process thats not going to easily reverse - unless you can come up with a cause.

1. What are your parameters - ammonia, nitrate, etc.
2. What other fish do you have - is the water well oxygenated?
3. I assume you're using some kind of medication? What, if any? Are you sure the dosing of anything you are using is 'correct'?
4. How long have you had the fish? How big is the tank?
5. Any other symptoms - like fast breathing, etc? Going to the top of the tank, etc?
6. Is he eating?

Discus - of course - can do this type of color change when they are 'dying'. So - I'm not trying to minimize your issue -- and to me - its the swimming thing thats the most bothersome to me (i.e. if you touch it it doesn't move). I hope this helps - one way you will know - is if the color returns to 'normal'. during the day.
 
Ammonia, nitrate, nitrite all 0
Yes well oxygenated - have a sponge filter in there
medication just use a little bit of copper.
Had him two or three days.
Tank is a QT but its small - 10 gallons but I'm going to move him to something bigger as soon as I can
other symptoms - Fast breathing, letting me touch him, not eating anymore.
At the LFS he was eating and when I took him home but after what ever made him like this (probably the fight) he hasn't eaten.
 
One other symptom I forgot to add - weird hiccup like thing he does.
 
other symptoms - Fast breathing, letting me touch him, not eating anymore.
Just want to make sure you mean he does have fast breathing? if so - I would treat with a full dose of copper - and check levels. You may have better luck with treatment - (keeping constant levels) without so many rocks in the tank.

One problem here - is there aren't any outward signs of velvet, CI, etc.

Did you happen to do a freshwater dip - or notice any signs of 'flukes' (which can be in the gills as well as the skin). A medication different than copper would be recommended if that was suspected (Praziquantel).

Here is another thread on this topic: Hope this helps!! https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/praziquantel-tablets-copper-power.865912/
 
Just want to make sure you mean he does have fast breathing? if so - I would treat with a full dose of copper - and check levels. You may have better luck with treatment - (keeping constant levels) without so many rocks in the tank.

One problem here - is there aren't any outward signs of velvet, CI, etc.

Did you happen to do a freshwater dip - or notice any signs of 'flukes' (which can be in the gills as well as the skin). A medication different than copper would be recommended if that was suspected (Praziquantel).

Here is another thread on this topic: Hope this helps!! https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/praziquantel-tablets-copper-power.865912/
Yes he DOES have fast breathing. I did a FW dip yesterday and he seemed better after that which is concerning. Also there was a few fish in that QT a while ago that had velvet. That's the whole reason why I QT my fish in the first place.

Also If flukes what should I look for?
 
Yes he DOES have fast breathing. I did a FW dip yesterday and he seemed better after that which is concerning. Also there was a few fish in that QT a while ago that had velvet. That's the whole reason why I QT my fish in the first place.

Also If flukes what should I look for?
well fast breathing for one. Second when you do a freshwater dip - use a container with no 'junk' on the bottom. Usually some flukes will 'fall off' and you can see them. I'm going to tag @Jay Hemdal - because he will know if there are any updates to his 2021 comments on copper and praziquantel. Please though - keep us updated.
 

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