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Calling all Tampa Bay Live Rock purchaser's! Yes you guys and gals that have purchased this rock. What's your experience with it? I want the good, the bad, and the ugly, please. :)
 
I've written quite a bit on here about it in my build thread and other posts. I wouldn't have traded the experience for anything. It's hard to state the amount of LIFE that exists in the rocks and sand Richard sends. Cup corals, sponges, tunicates, barnacles, clams, feather dusters, porcelain crabs, worms, pods, urchins, coraline algae, etc, etc., most of which are still alive a year later. I spent many hours with a flashlight at night finding new things every time I looked. To me, starting with dry rock would be missing out on all the diversity TBS rock provides.

As for bad, I've had to trap or kill a dozen gorilla crabs and stone crabs. I trapped one pistol shrimp and kept another once I realized they were not that big of a deal and pretty cool critters. The urchins I gave away (Florida purple spine urchins - they kept hatching out of the rockwork - pretty neat to watch grow but once I had SPS, nope). For me trapping the crabs was part of the fun while I waited for my fish to QT. I really didn't have a big issue with any of the "bad" hitchhikers. Check my build thread for more on my experience.
 
I’d say the above is pretty close to my experience as well. Most of the plant/algae that comes on the rock won’t make it long term or should I say through the cycling of the rock. However lots of life surprisingly will. Cup corals, star corals, coralline, mantis, mushrooms, Caribbean rose coral, sponges(lots of them), some crazy other stuff including some chillins that are super sand/glass algae eaters, turkey wing mussels, ect

You will likely need to set a trap for the bad isopod. I was isopod free after a week of trapping. I got a whelk snails but he’s behaved so far. No gorilla crabs which I hear is rare. The mantis just disappeared, not sure if he died or what.

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Here’s some more pics including what the rock looked like when it first came in. The gorgonian did not make it. Wish I knew that was coming and I would have tried to be better prepared for it.

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I've written quite a bit on here about it in my build thread and other posts. I wouldn't have traded the experience for anything. It's hard to state the amount of LIFE that exists in the rocks and sand Richard sends. Cup corals, sponges, tunicates, barnacles, clams, feather dusters, porcelain crabs, worms, pods, urchins, coraline algae, etc, etc., most of which are still alive a year later. I spent many hours with a flashlight at night finding new things every time I looked. To me, starting with dry rock would be missing out on all the diversity TBS rock provides.

As for bad, I've had to trap or kill a dozen gorilla crabs and stone crabs. I trapped one pistol shrimp and kept another once I realized they were not that big of a deal and pretty cool critters. The urchins I gave away (Florida purple spine urchins - they kept hatching out of the rockwork - pretty neat to watch grow but once I had SPS, nope). For me trapping the crabs was part of the fun while I waited for my fish to QT. I really didn't have a big issue with any of the "bad" hitchhikers. Check my build thread for more on my experience.
A-mazing build thread btw! Thank you for your thoughts and opinions! Hows the SPS corals doing?

This is by far some of the biggest aiptasia I've ever seen. Did you let them grow out? Did they come with the rock? Do your clownfish host them? lol
 
They look like huge aitasia but they are actually bulb anemones. They get very large and don’t spread much if at all. They were about the size of a dime when I got the rock. I’ve killed a few off that were in bad spots but figured some in the back corner are ok.

My clowns don’t host them. Also they can sting corals and they do sometimes move. Overall not a big issue a year and half in. These are easier to kill if wanted than aiptasia/Mejano.
 
I would echo the above. I had just a few gorilla crabs. The two pistol shrimp were welcome in my tank. The rock boring urchins grew quickly and I ended up trading them for store credit at my LFS. A few of them still live in one of their maintenance customers tanks.

The only additional bad hitch hiker I got was two polyclad flatworms.

The rock arrived completely submerged in water and bivalves, hidden cup corals and feather dusters were opening up within minutes of putting the rock in my tank.
 
A-mazing build thread btw! Thank you for your thoughts and opinions! Hows the SPS corals doing?
This is by far some of the biggest aiptasia I've ever seen. Did you let them grow out? Did they come with the rock? Do your clownfish host them? lol

Thanks very much. SPS is all encrusting and growing little by little every day. I finaly feel like anything I put in the tank I have a good chance to be able to keep alive and grow.
 
I still have tbs rock I bought a good 10 + years ago. I don't know about now ,but back then, You could go to the store & pick out the rock You wanted. I had so much life & new stuff popping up years later. Sure I got the crabs & mantis. that was no problem. Sierra Bravo pretty much said it for me. Great stuff !
 
Oh yeah, I forgot about the crazy amount of small feather dusters and even some Xmas tree worms. Tons of bristle worms and brittle stars as well. Had spaghetti worms galore but they died out. For a short phase I had orange, green, anc yellow tunicates pop up, but they died off after s while.

If your looking for the extra life it’s worth it. I still find new live critters a year later.
 
Calling all Tampa Bay Live Rock purchaser's! Yes you guys and gals that have purchased this rock. What's your experience with it? I want the good, the bad, and the ugly, please. :)
I recently got live rock from Tampa Bay and had a fantastic experience. Richard is very helpful and answers emails super fast. The shipments come in 2 parts. The first is your set up with half the rock, sand, and hermit crabs and snails. You get this set up and start your water cycle. Picking the packages up at the airport was a breeze. My first experience with cargo shipments. I even got my grandson out of school to go with me for the experience. We were so excited to set up the first stage. We waited about 10 days to 2 weeks for our tank to cycle, then the second shipment came. Included was a bristle starfish, sponge, anemone, and cleaner shrimp. The live rock had so many critters in it. A variety of crabs and corals emerged. I would highly recommend buying live rock here. You really get a starter set-up for one price. All the set up comes right from the ocean. You can't get fresher than that.
 
I'm liking how many people said corals. I am working on build right now and plan to make it a Florida keys tank. I have two stony corals handed down from another reefer (one is a lesser starlet, the other some sort of brain), a dozen gorgs, rics, rock flowers and zoas. I plan to augment that with aquacultured live rock to get more stony corals.
If anyone googles guit's rose coral tank, where "guit" stocked only aquacultured rock and nothing else, that is a tank I aspire to.
Anyway, the plan is to try and get as many coral hitchhikers as possible! How feasible do y'all think that is? I think guit said he made several orders but only 1/3 was "primo".
 
I cycled my reef with TBLR about four years ago and was amazed at all the life that came with it. Bulb anemone, feather dusters, mussels, various colored sponges, brain corals, macro algae, spaghetti worms galore, snails, some hermits, a mantis shrimp that I have never seen but I hear him snapping every night, many brittle stars and even a porcelain crab. Unfortunately, about two years ago my tank crashed and I lost 50% of my coral before I got it back on track. But most of what I listed above survived. I still hear that mantis shrimp every night and I still periodically get the flashlight out and view after lights out. I'm looking to upgrade tank size soon and intend to put another order in. I will never cycle a tank with dry rock as I enjoy the surprises and oddities that real live rock brings. The down side is the die off and the pests. The spaghetti worm population grew to unsightly amounts but the purchase of a few reef safe crabs and shrimp eradicated that problem quickly. I for one enjoy the biodiversity and am not a big fan of a pristine reef.
 
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I started my 1st tbs tank in 2003. than I added 2 more tanks with tbs. I got wiped out by sandy and redid the tanks starting from scratch. I love all the life, good and bad. I still have some crabs, oh well,[ their small and don't seam to cause any issues] I had 1 mantis that I left in the dt. the only thing it bothered/ was the banded coral shrimp[I think]. I feed him on a stick I have 1 mantis in my fudge,[ the gulf mantis are not the bad ones] that is a pet now. I would never have a tank with out tbs
 
I ordered aquacultured rock from KP Aquatics, which comes from the Florida Keys. I got the rock shipped overnight damp instead of air freighting. Despite being out of the water for 18+ hours, there's still a ton of life on the rocks. The rock cured for about 2 weeks, at which point it was fully cycled, then I put it in my display.

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It doesn't quite have the life and hitch hikers that air freighted rock has, but my display is a 20g long. In my situation, a small 10lb box shipped overnight made much more sense than paying to air freight and deal with all the hassle associated with picking it up at the airport. I feel like overnighted rock from KP Aquatics is a decent step above live rock from the LFS if you don't feel like air freighting rock or you just don't need that much. Unless you have exceptionally good live rock at your LFS. My first tank I ever set up was with Live Aquaria's "uncured" rock, which has long since been discontinued. From the best I can tell, this rock was basically ocean rock and was overnighted to LA or shipped wet. This rock is the only rock I've seen since that has had a comparable amount of life.

Whether you air freight or overnight the rock, I feel like many reefers could benefit from adding some ocean rock to their tank, regardless of the "pests" that may or may not come along. Had I known that KP Aquatics would overnight smaller quantities of rock, I never would have started my tank with dry rock.
 
I have set up two reefs using TBLR, overall great experience . I have been in the hobby for over 20 years and there is no doubt this adds amazing life to your system. The sponges, starfish etc create a much more natural environment than dry rock. Two things to be aware of
Hitchhikers , a massive gorilla crab caught him early one morning eating my $120 maxima clam for breakfast
Bad Algae , I battled bubble algae for months
I have been out of the hobby for 5 years and just set up new tank, I decided to go with dry rock this time adding some live sand and critters from Into Pacific Sea Farms. So far so good.
 
Absolutely the best by all means!!! You will not be disappointed in the life that will come on the rocks!
 

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